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Composition/Arrangement/Theory / Re: Method to finding key a song is in
« on: January 15, 2016, 06:01:43 pm »
soundcloud track check is a chrome extension that tells you the key and bpm of a track (100% accurate)
I'm intrigued.. I thought key detection software was still pretty imperfect. Whatever Beatport uses seems to get it wrong at least a third of the time.
Yeah, nothing is 100% accurate except your ear. Especially when it comes to major vs minor (Beatport is terrible about this).

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Samples/Plugins/Software/Gear / Re: Does anyone use ZynAddSubFX?
« on: January 15, 2016, 05:59:34 pm »

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Sound Design / Re: Simple question about equing
« on: January 15, 2016, 01:06:44 am »
Vengeance loves using too much compression on everything, so I guess there's your answer?

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Sound Design / Re: Simple question about equing
« on: January 15, 2016, 12:16:35 am »
I'm guessing you're eqing a compressed sample. In that case, the peak volume goes up, but the RMS volume is still going down (if you're only cutting). So the loudest parts of the track will be a little louder, but since the average volume is less, it'll sound quieter to a listener.

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Composition/Arrangement/Theory / Re: Purchasing MIDI only sound packs
« on: January 15, 2016, 12:13:54 am »
This thread is yelling for this:
I thought using loops was cheating, so I programmed my own using samples. I then thought using samples was cheating, so I recorded real drums. I then thought that programming it was cheating, so I learned to play drums for real. I then thought using bought drums was cheating, so I learned to make my own. I then thought using premade skins was cheating, so I killed a goat and skinned it. I then thought that that was cheating too, so I grew my own goat from a baby goat. I also think that is cheating, but I’m not sure where to go from here. I haven’t made any music lately, what with the goat farming and all.

-unknown

A copypasta in a thread about pre-made midi. Can we just stop for a second and appreciate what just happened?

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Composition/Arrangement/Theory / Re: Purchasing MIDI only sound packs
« on: January 14, 2016, 08:37:29 pm »
I think this is helpful if you're starting out.
It's also helpful when testing out sounds. I'll slap a pre-made melody to see how the sound responds to note changes, etc. To see if I like it.
I just use melodies from other songs for that. Cheaper, works just as well.

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Composition/Arrangement/Theory / Re: Purchasing MIDI only sound packs
« on: January 14, 2016, 08:01:09 pm »
Look at it like this: pre-made elements make a pre-made track. If you're buying anything canned from someone else, be they samples, presets, or melodies, that's one less possible way to make your track sound different from all the others, and considering how saturated EDM is, you've got a lot of competition already. Canned melodies might be "good enough", but they're never preferable to doing it yourself.

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Inspiration/Creativity/Motivation / Re: [TL;DR] Musicianship
« on: January 14, 2016, 04:44:20 pm »
A lot of music I hear says nothing--and I'll ask the writer what it's about, and usually there is no answer, nor is it skillfully expressed, or it's usually just an excuse to "verify the integrity of their musicianship." And the truth is, 99.9999% of the music I hear from peers is never something I'll ever come back to listen to. It doesn't become a classic for me. It usually never becomes something I admire or idolize within, nor is it something I truly regard as intuitive, creative, or beautiful.

I've spent the last two years trying to figure out how to say this without coming off as an "elitist" or something like that. Thank you.

Some thoughts:
*Dorian minor is great for making "triumphant" tracks. Other than Hans Zimmer, Ensiferum loves to use it, and all their songs are about vikings beating people up, enough said.
*There's definitely a place for experimenting, and looking for unusual elements like non-diatonic scales or new sounds or w/e. If you want to use elements in a track to express something, it helps if those elements are already there for you to play with.
*On the other hand, there are plenty of those elements out there already, waiting to be used in new ways. That's why I keep telling new producers to listen to more non-EDM music.

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Right, but when two sub frequencies are out of tune, you can hear the beats from when they come in and out of sync. That's where the mud comes from.
Listen to a typical trap beat. Trap kicks make a point of only having one sub frequency going at a time. You get a nice clean sine wave that you can bump in your car. Then, compare that to this. That sub kick's made from two detuned subs, and you get a nice wash of noise (except they did it deliberately).

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Imagine a rock group, tuning the kick drum for each song they play.  ;D
Rock groups don't have a sub bass.

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Inspiration/Creativity/Motivation / Re: Pointlessness and music
« on: January 14, 2016, 03:56:00 pm »
Going back to the OP, maybe not if I had to deal with a family and make every note count, but imo music doesn't always need a "purpose". Sometimes music is the purpose, just testing what you can do in a DAW and making something that sounds cool.

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Like a surprising number of other producers, I mostly listened to metal before getting into EDM. I try to look for good stuff in any genre though. There's been some good stuff on top 40 radio in the last couple of years, maybe that's next?

Some random tracks:
Skyharbor - Order 66 (heavy midtempo stuff with poppy vocals): https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OjMrjTA7Ai4
The Tea Party - The Bazaar ("Morroccan Roll"): https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JCye7v79Tz0
Of Monsters and Men - King and Lionheart (shameless indie pop): https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A76a_LNIYwE
First Aid Kit - Emmylou (classic country, but Swedish): https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PC57z-oDPLs

And this one's for the guy that said Bathory: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KRpeofMHaG4

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Composition/Arrangement/Theory / Re: [Ql Creating (logical) melodies
« on: January 12, 2016, 04:58:10 am »
Thanks for the mention, man! When I saw this post I thought I'd contribute, but looks like a lot of people covered it.

(fangirl squeeing)

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Samples/Plugins/Software/Gear / Re: Orchestral String Plugins
« on: January 11, 2016, 06:53:35 pm »
If you're on a budget, try Miroslav Philharmonik. They hold sales pretty often, I picked it up for $60, but it's a whole orchestral suite, with strings, winds, choirs, piano, and more, with different articulations and individual instruments.

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Inspiration/Creativity/Motivation / Re: Personal development
« on: January 11, 2016, 06:18:13 pm »
Making music is, in a way, an ability that allows us to transcend past this fleshy shell that we are encased in. I think you're alluding to translating your thoughts and concentrating them into sounds that are synonymous with the person you are at that moment in time.

A bit too philosophical for me, but I get what you're saying.
Not just your thoughts, but the human experience. People like music they can relate to. The best songs are the ones that can reach out into the listener, find something inside them, and dig it up. This goes for fiction too; even if your fictional universe has giant robots and magic lasers and yellow rats that shoot lightning, if the characters are believable, and they go through real struggles and deal with them like normal people would, it'll have an emotional impact.

One of my favorite albums of all time, Skyforger by Amorphis, is set in pre-christian Finland. I've never even been to Finland. But it deals with some very real themes, like finding your limits, and never being satisfied with your own work. The music is great, but it's the lyrics, which in turn inspire the music, that make it universal. And if you let your life seep into the music, you won't even need lyrics.

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