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Messages - attila

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Yeah it's just not in depth enough. I always get better tones out of Nectar. Like I'm convinced Nectar is what Galantis runs all of their vocals through because it takes no effort to get a nice, smooth sound out of it.

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Sound Design / Re: How to Isolate Vocals from a track???
« on: August 25, 2016, 03:00:48 am »
Ask the artist really nicely for the stems haha

In all honesty there's no good way to do it unless you have a 1:1 instrumental

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Samples/Plugins/Software/Gear / Re: Headphones or Speakers ?
« on: August 25, 2016, 12:08:06 am »
My biggest problem with headphones is that they fatigue my ears so fast compared to monitors

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Mixing/Mastering / Re: Where do YOUR drums sit on the stereo field?
« on: August 24, 2016, 08:02:42 pm »
Here, there and everywhere. My drums usually comprise 30-40 tracks

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Mixing/Mastering / Re: Panning. One Left, One right, One Center?
« on: August 23, 2016, 11:25:25 am »
Stereo field, width, etc is just an illusion caused by having different signals. So if you're playing multiple instances of the same signal back it's just going to sound louder. You have to affect the hard panned signals in some way to give the illusion of width. Simple things to try would be offsetting the signal slightly or shelving off extra lows and adding harmonic excitement.

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Most of the time I don't have kicks and snares hitting at the same time because it's not 2009.

I don't layer drums that much either anymore because I'm lazy and it's easier to just pick one good sample.

That said, if I have a kick and snare together I line them up exactly. If it feels too rigid I have the rest of the drum kit to give it flavor. As a drummer with OCD it disgusts me to see an element off time throughout a whole track. Also it sounds dated.

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Sound Design / Re: The reverb/delay technique used on these vocals
« on: August 20, 2016, 09:36:53 pm »
First they're hi passed pretty extremely. Then it sounds like the reverb was bandpassed on a send channel. Decay ~2 seconds. I'm just listening through my laptop speakers, but it sounds like the track was also copied/recorded twice and hard panned l/r with even more of the lows/mids cut plus some harmonic excitement to give a little crispness on the edges. There's a dickton of subtle harmonies running throughout it to give it that Imogen Heap sound. I don't detect much delay, it sounds more like manual cutting to get the delay effects.

90% of it is just the performance though. The singer has one of those brittle, Ellie Goulding type voices that works well for this kind of stuff.

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Yamaha HS8's. But I just ordered myself a pair yesterday. :D

So right now it's one of those Monitor controllers that let's you switch between two different monitors.

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MONITOR2USB

I bought this the week it released and was terrified because Behringer+no reviews= :/

But it's been absolutely rock solid and transparent. I'd recommend it every day of the week unless you're at the point of wanting a Grace or Dangerous system.

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You Might Like... / Re: Must hear Albums?
« on: August 20, 2016, 05:27:20 am »
Porter Robinson - Worlds
Madeon - The City
NOISIA - Outer Edges
Mat Zo- Damage Control
I See Monstas - Monsta
Disclosure - Settle

Madeon - The CityMadeon - The CityMadeon - The CityMadeon - The CityMadeon - The CityMadeon - The CityMadeon - The CityMadeon - The CityMadeon - The CityMadeon - The CityMadeon - The CityMadeon - The CityMadeon - The CityMadeon - The CityMadeon - The CityMadeon - The CityMadeon - The CityMadeon - The CityMadeon - The CityMadeon - The CityMadeon - The CityMadeon - The CityMadeon - The CityMadeon - The CityMadeon - The City
Such a consistent album.

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Inspiration/Creativity/Motivation / Re: I gave up
« on: August 19, 2016, 11:29:20 pm »
Do what feels right. If music's a burden you'll feel better once you let it go.

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Composition/Arrangement/Theory / Re: question about dynamic range
« on: August 19, 2016, 11:28:16 pm »
Don't overthink it too much, you'll drive yourself crazy. Think of all of the amazing, full mixes that were created with just guitars, drums, bass and vocals. Music isn't a game of Tetris, don't feel obligated to fill every frequency band. Note which frequencies speak most to what the track is and make sure those are rock solid, then just strike a balance. There's no blueprint to making a song sound right, but there are plenty of unconventional, counter intuitive mixes that sound great.

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This is something I've been coming around to over the last couple years. I "understood" compression for several years (the theory behind it), but never nailed down how to use it that well. What changed for me was sitting down with several different compressors to learn their different sounds so I would actually use them with purpose.

It's difficult when you're learning electronic music because everything is so in your face. The forum mentality a lot of us learned through can be hard to navigate. You'll find dozens of threads with subjects like "What's the best/your favorite compressor?" and not enough "What compressor will help me round out low, female vocals?"

I'd go through phases of using the fabfilter pro-c on everything cause Madeon said he used it, then phases of using ableton's stock compressor because Feed Me said it's all 99.9% of producers will ever need, then H comp cause Skrillex etc... What I've come to realize is that pretty much every producer I obsessed over was still learning how to do all of this shit themselves-they just managed to make really good music while doing it.

So I'd recommend every producer find the range of compressors that work for them so each instance is used with intentionality.

ok i understand that and the theory behind it. what i dont understand is if i put compression on one channel i.e female vocals - how does it compress it in relation to the other channels?
I don't know if I 100% understand exactly what you're asking. If you're dropping a single compressor on a single channel you'd only be reducing the dynamics of the single track (vocals in this case). How it plays into the overall sound depends on how you treat the rest of the music.

You use compression if you know that the sound needs it.

I like a little bit of compression on some things, but i tend to not use it willy nilly.

I compression a source with many effects coming from some kind of effect rack or combinator (ableton and reason respectively), if it needs the glue.

Compression can also help a group of parts (ie drums) sound as if they're moving as one unit (glue). it helps shape and tailor the impacts and notes to a song a little bit better. or to help get a certain feel and sound out of a specific set of instruments.

so if i want to compress my drums i would group them all (in ableton) and use a glue compressor or whatever i prefer (parallel, etc) and get them to sound closer together basically instead of some peaking where i dont want them too.
or what you think?

This depends on the sound you're going for. If you just want to bring the drums together a little bit some light compression may get you there. At the same time if you send any effect to the whole kit you'd likely get a similar result. I'd recommend gain staging to even out levels first though. Even using something like Waves Vocal Rider. Especially when you're using more organic sounds...compression can be unkind really quickly. Even if you're diligent about using it more subtly, I've gotten to the end of a lot of mixes and realized how much life was sucked out of the song compared to the initial garbage mix.

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This is something I've been coming around to over the last couple years. I "understood" compression for several years (the theory behind it), but never nailed down how to use it that well. What changed for me was sitting down with several different compressors to learn their different sounds so I would actually use them with purpose.

It's difficult when you're learning electronic music because everything is so in your face. The forum mentality a lot of us learned through can be hard to navigate. You'll find dozens of threads with subjects like "What's the best/your favorite compressor?" and not enough "What compressor will help me round out low, female vocals?"

I'd go through phases of using the fabfilter pro-c on everything cause Madeon said he used it, then phases of using ableton's stock compressor because Feed Me said it's all 99.9% of producers will ever need, then H comp cause Skrillex etc... What I've come to realize is that pretty much every producer I obsessed over was still learning how to do all of this shit themselves-they just managed to make really good music while doing it.

So I'd recommend every producer find the range of compressors that work for them so each instance is used with intentionality.   

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It makes sense, most producers these days are broke college kids. If I had the option when I started I would've done it in a heartbeat.

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Samples/Plugins/Software/Gear / Re: good laptops for producing under 1k?
« on: August 15, 2016, 02:11:09 am »
A grand for a windows based laptop can get you way more than enough power.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA42J4C58292

quad i7, 32 gb ram, 2 tb hd and 256 ssd, 17" screen. More powerful than most desktops most of us use.

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