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Samples/Plugins/Software/Gear / Re: Any idea which vst/library was used for this?
« on: February 28, 2016, 10:04:22 pm »
I found this library amazing for acoustic guitar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3tKe7IqLOg

It may sound like garbage if you don't know how to write for a guitar though. If you write stuff that's impossible it's very obvious to guitar players.




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Composition/Arrangement/Theory / Re: The most important thing (rant)
« on: February 28, 2016, 09:21:45 pm »
Quote from: ion on February 28, 2016, 11:33:18 am
You are almost convincing me to change my stance Lydian, but only almost.  A lot of good points, but still lacking a little when it comes to explaining how practicing an instrument does or does not train your ear.  I think it does.

In that case I will most likely not be the one to persuade you. I can only speak from my own experience as a multi-instrumentalist. I consider my ears to be my greatest strength. I would not however attribute that strength to playing instruments. When I first started playing guitar (12 years old) my ears were absolute garbage. Unlike Zau, I was not born with any type of perfect pitch. What I did realize though was that only being able to play music if I had the tabs for it became HIGHLY limiting. Not only were the tabs on ultimate guitar often incorrect but they weren't always available either.

Therefore I made a conscious decision to stop using them very early on in my playing. I downloaded transcription software to slow songs down sometimes as slow as 25% to be able to learn the notes by ear. I had no real concept of music theory and didn't even know how to subdivide notes or count beats. I had to force myself to learn music by ear, improvise over backing tracks, transcribe music in Sibelius, and only then was I able to develop my ears.

Then came in music theory which essentially skyrocketed my ears to levels I could never imagine. Suddenly I was able to perceive music in scales, arpeggios, melodies, harmonies, chord progressions, modes, intervals, keys, tonal centers, and subdivisions. Learning music theory enabled me to hear music in patterns, numbers, and terms.

Which is why this...

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No amount of music theory is going to help you in the first place if you can't HEAR what you're doing.

annoys the hell out of me.

Someone like Zau who has perfect pitch would not be able to relate to beginners having shit ears in the first place because he was simply born with it.

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. Since you brought it up, the way I did it is that I was born with good ears...

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WIPs / Re: Zedd & Aloe Blacc & Grey - Candyman (Edit/Remix) WIP
« on: February 28, 2016, 09:23:41 am »
That intro is really pretty. <3 I could go to sleep to it right now tbh. (1:21AM)
Not so many highs at first which gives it that calming effect. Love the ambience you have as well in the background. :) Water and birds is it? As well as something else.

What is that after the intro? Are you using an arpeggiator for those chords or just playing them in 16th notes?

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Composition/Arrangement/Theory / Re: The most important thing (rant)
« on: February 28, 2016, 09:04:51 am »
Quote from: ion on February 28, 2016, 08:40:52 am
Eh, no way!
Most people who write pop, rock, or jazz can play an instrument.  That is more than 85% of all so called "edm producers".  I call BS

Playing an instrument doesn't give you a good ear. I have a friend who has been playing guitar for 4 years and can't play in key for ass. ^.^

Playing an instrument also doesn't teach you sound design. It doesn't teach you arrangement. It doesn't teach you theory. It doesn't teach you mixing. It doesn't teach you composition. It doesn't even teach you ear training. UNLESS... you learn music by ear.

Have you ever taken away sheet music from band students or piano players and asked them to learn a song by ear? Hardly anyone in my high school could learn stuff by ear aside from a few musicians who were actually decent. We're talking kids who have been playing music since grade school. 5-8 years of music and they still can't learn stuff by ear or play music without relying on their sheets.

I maintain my stance. I play drums, guitar, bass, and piano and out of all these producing EDM is SUBSTANTIALLY harder and contains the same amount of beginners with bad ears as any other genre.

(especially metal. My god you don't understand how many requests I get for tabs on my youtube channel even 4 years after I made those videos"


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Composition/Arrangement/Theory / Re: The most important thing (rant)
« on: February 28, 2016, 08:46:47 am »
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Preventative maintenance can answer many questions just by understanding, seeking knowledge and doing work. This term comes to mind, it may be used out of context but it seems to fit.

Please Senpai I don't understand. xD Too much science. We're talking tits here.

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There's also an element of time involved when dealing with other people and doing things, and it's a finite resource whether you want to believe that or not.

Kinda like when I post a question or thread and have to wait for someone to reply until moving forward. D:

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So, basically it's unmasking a potential wannabee who doesn't want to put in time and think "OH I FOUND A SHORT CUT LEL", chances are that so called short cut just isn't a substitute for understanding the application.

So basically I get lazy and post my threads looking for shortcuts when really I should just stop making excuses for myself and write garbage. xD

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If you really want to be good, you'll develop these guards and you can eventually be extremely productive once you've assessed the person and the level of understanding.

Teach me more about these guards Senpai.  ;D

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Zau shouldn't have to teach some one how to walk when they're expecting to run a marathon...

Zau should teach us n00bs his uber l33t production/mixing/perfectpitch/composition top secret superstar DJ of the chosen ones production skills tho. Cause we all know he loves beginners!  ;D


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And like i've said before, i understand the process of gathering information and people have different ways of doing it, there's just more efficient means if you'd just pay attention to the smaller things before you even consider doing this line of work.


I like to use google. :D Google doesn't always have everything tho so sometimes trial and error is the only option.

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Those small things also include prerequisites to music application and appreciation. Right now, it seems like most beginners are just running more on appreciation. And it might be a good suggestion to get some learning! You know, the hard stuff lol.

Wise choice of words senpai. <3 

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Composition/Arrangement/Theory / Re: Electronic Music Instrumentation/Arrangement
« on: February 28, 2016, 08:29:25 am »
Quote from: fxbip on February 28, 2016, 08:12:44 am
I almost never start on piano,or touch the keyboard for electronic music.I did it once or twice in like 4 years and it was because i did an impro on my nord lead that i had to write down.

But that's probably because i spent a lot of time improvising on piano some years ago and i can hear the progression and right notes to chose when i write it on sequencer.

Its about developing musical science and instinct,the inner musical Ear.Improvisation help that a lot as you have to choose the next note LIVE right now and make quick decisions.So your musical sense become more acute.


Awesome! :D I love improvising on everything. (Especially piano)

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Composition/Arrangement/Theory / Re: 4 part writing/species counterpoint in electronic music
« on: February 28, 2016, 08:22:47 am »
This sounds like an awesome bedtime lullaby xD I could definitely see this coming as a music preset on a baby crib. At least until the arrangement progresses. :P The 16th note sound has me wtfing though. I actually don't know wtf that is.  :D

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Composition/Arrangement/Theory / Re: 4 part writing/species counterpoint in electronic music
« on: February 28, 2016, 07:42:52 am »
Quote from: fxbip on February 28, 2016, 07:37:13 am
Haha definitively some baroque vibes going on, yeah harmonic minor can sound VERY weird in dance music.But.... this... sounds basically just like AMAZING VIDEO GAME MUSIC!!!
Just work for nintendo man!!!hahaha
:)

Sadly I'm past my days of analyzing baroque string quartets. xD It's so funny to listen to the music you made when you were first starting out and look at how far you've come.

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Composition/Arrangement/Theory / Re: 4 part writing/species counterpoint in electronic music
« on: February 28, 2016, 07:28:16 am »
I found the files ahaha! Omg this music is so bad.

Not all of it sounds baroque but specifically 0.00-0.08. It branches into homophony from there. Then at 0:48 again. xD I was listening to a lot of vivaldi at the time and I didn't yet realize that harmonic minor sounds pretty out of place in dance music.

https://clyp.it/uyx1axml

Found these as well although I wouldn't really call it baroque style. They were mainly themes from what looks like as old as june 2013. :P

https://clyp.it/ctyahwj0

https://clyp.it/rpszu5ne

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Composition/Arrangement/Theory / Re: 4 part writing/species counterpoint in electronic music
« on: February 28, 2016, 07:10:23 am »
Ahahahahaha lemme see if I can find it. It was literally when I FIRST started writing music. :D

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Inspiration/Creativity/Motivation / Re: What makes you different from everyone else? (Discussion)
« on: February 28, 2016, 07:05:40 am »
Nothing makes me different.  :) I play instruments like many other producers. I have a shitty social life like many other producers. I struggle with the same grind as other producers. I use chords and scales that I've heard other producers use. I copy the sound design of my favorite producers to get better just like other producers.

Absolutely nothing original.

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Inspiration/Creativity/Motivation / Re: What makes you different from everyone else? (Discussion)
« on: February 28, 2016, 06:52:45 am »
Quote from: fxbip on February 27, 2016, 08:23:02 pm
I actually dislike the though of receiving money for music.It seems it makes it impure.It disgust me.If music is not made with beauty and sharing in mind it seems it degrade it.

There was this quote on Mat Zo twitter by some funk or jazz black musician i think about God leaving the room when you start thinking about money when making music,i think this is so true!(if anyone could find or remember this quote would be nice)

I ll probably release a CD soon on a label and if i could i would give the CD to people instead of selling it.But i guess ill use the money i make(if i make any,lol)to finally pay for these plugins  ive been using for so long,lets say...not always in the limits of the law.hehe
I would like to make a living with music but at the same time i dont want to connect music with money in any way what so ever.A bit paradoxal i know...


I also make the darkest music imaginable.

There's nothing impure about receiving money for music. :)

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Composition/Arrangement/Theory / Re: The most important thing (rant)
« on: February 28, 2016, 06:39:52 am »
Quote from: fxbip on February 28, 2016, 06:31:35 am
All of this is very subjective.
Minor 9th are awesome i use them all the time on pads,extremely tense and dark.When in phrygian mode the tonic +minor 9th gives you insane chords.
Why you lose your time ranting about things like: there is some people making bad music man?hahaha of course there is some people making bad music and there will always be,you gotta start somewhere!
And for some people music is just a fun amateur thing they do in their free time and they dont have an ambition to become the next producer prodigy!
Be more positive and talk about the music you DO like instead of the one you dislike.You will be much happier.Just a friendly advice.

I love you fxbip

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WIPs / Re: Progressive house/ Jazz Composition (Looking for Ideas/ Suggestions)
« on: February 28, 2016, 06:36:16 am »
I'll let Marrow be more of the critique from a mixing perspective considering it is not my strong point.

I will say this though. I LOVE how pretty your chords are. They are absolutely beautiful. <3 Everything that I love to hear in music from a harmonic perspective.




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WIPs / Re: Progressive House Track - Looking For Feedback
« on: February 28, 2016, 06:32:22 am »
Quote from: Cor Sicarius on February 28, 2016, 02:03:17 am
Definitely is more progressive trance and it sounds great! Since its a baseline I wont judge the master as I'm assuming you know it needs an overhaul. Progression is nice. Synths are solid. Chording is great as well. Like it so far! Keep going. I love progressive house/trance especially when it's done uniquely and well, and so far you have a great start!

Just wanted to thank you for checking the track out. :) I love trance so I don't mind what you call it. I took everything off of my master chain before I uploaded it so yes the waveform is quite wimpy! I'm trying my best to finish it up. ^.^

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