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Mixing/Mastering / Re: Mono Supersaws
« on: May 05, 2016, 04:15:24 am »
Do you have any example of a track? Are you sure the supersaw is not mono in the first place, with just a bit of widening from something like a reverb?

because the effects still come through in mono, but just not as much as you'd hear it as if it was coming through from stereo.

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The mindset isn't about where you're getting paid to do something, it's the motivation to DO that something. You think that dildo maker was growing up and saying "one day i wanna make dildos until i die"?

This is, without a doubt, the greatest post I have yet to have read on this forum  ;D

Please... I can't stop laughing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UlXcoVHnog

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Mixing/Mastering / Re: Mono Supersaws
« on: May 05, 2016, 02:30:49 am »
it's the nature of mono and stereo.

I have a hunch, that those producers are utilizing techniques that i've described above. So their reference point when mixing, is more of both worlds.

If you only think of things, or do things, in a certain manner all you have to go off of is that one way.

If you hybridize your reference, then you can see what works well in both environments and end up with a decent mix.

You could how ever, specialize in one way of doing things.

If you're interested in having your tunes played out in clubs, look to see what the liver venue reference is (should be mono or stereo depending).

So, once you've understood where other people are coming from, then you might have a better picture (your song) to frame (stereo/mono/hybrid).

Also, you might be looking at a brush stroke, rather than how the brush stroke is involved with the entire picture, within the entire pictures.



Also, it's not that it's loosing power, it's that you've lost the stereo image of the song/sound. So you can't realistically expect to garnish the same results when you deliberately switch how the music is played back.

It ultimately sounds like, it's a mix issue. Look up fletcher munson curves or the thread in this forum (in this topic) about achieving loudness.

There's ways to MAKE THE MIX, louder based on how you bias your frequencies, levels, panning, and stereo imaging (width control) as well.

I don't play by those rules, but the professional mix engineers and masters do.

If you're interested in a very basic and fundamental understanding of what i've talked about, we can set up a skype meeting (some time after finals) if you're interested. no cost of shenanigans lol

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Mixing/Mastering / Re: Mono Supersaws
« on: May 05, 2016, 12:27:33 am »
so, you're worried about stereo loss when converting to mono?

You will loose what you have from stereo by going to mono. (some one can do some scientific source here because i don't have it)

But the information of stereo will be there if you let the source remain stereo, and just made it mono (ie with a width controller of some kind).

That's my initial answer to your question.

But, i sense you may have yet to actually describe your problem in detail due to a lack of vocabulary behind the problem you are experiencing. (there's a ton of stuff, i don't aim to insult;i still cuss like a sailor to describe my problems)

or it's a fundamental misunderstanding of what mono compared to stereo actually is...

the reason i put things in mono or make more mono, is to control the stereo image of each element in my track. Instead of having every thing wide ass open, they are almost always tamed and tailored in some one to let a good portion of my buss effects fill in the gaps left by the tailoring of the individual sounds.

I'd reconsider what you're having trouble with (or some one explain to me what the problem is, if you see things differently please) and coming back again on this topic :|

because the solutions you've posted, don't bring to mind an answer that would be beneficial for what you're trying to achieve and in what context you're trying to achieve this in.


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You are you, they are them.

This is still an introspective question and worth being worked out over time.

I've gotten so tired of not getting what i want, and ended up being ok with what i do make. Because, no matter how hard you try to be like something else, you can't dispute the fact that you're separate from the thing you want.

Besides, those people worked on themselves, shouldn't you work on you?

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Still making bass music.

Going for an old school dubstep (2000-2007), but more into the transition with what caspa and rusko did.

I eventually want to make some less dirty sounding dubstep, but i need to get my willies out first.

Eventually i'll get back to writing tunes, but i wanna do what i've set out to do in the first place lol.

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The difference between gain and volume,

One controls the input, the other controls the output.

It's a weird way of understanding signal strength and balancing those two perspectives.

It's like saying "i want this to be louder" then turn up the volume or "the signal isn't strong enough" turn up the gain.

After literally 10 years of playing music live, live sound, and production my friend told me the difference between the two when we were setting up before a gig.

There's so much analogue in this digital world and a lot of it gets looked over.

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Mixing/Mastering / Re: Help with something please
« on: May 02, 2016, 09:19:33 pm »
Go back over ALL of your tracks...and turn things down some.

This sort of thing is handy if you're sending your individual tracks through groups. So that all you have to do is turn down the group volume.

once you get things not clipping any more, you can start to turn things up bit by bit.

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I can literally write a song in 4 hours
That's melody, bass, drums.

Depending on the mood i am going for, or the type of genre and date style i want, i'll add or add very little.

But i try to focus on what makes that particular genre during the time period work.

You can definitely speed up the process by not focusing to hard on one thing, and just getting little snippits done.

Then move  into focus mode when you have the foundation done.

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Sound Design / Re: Diplo Snares
« on: May 01, 2016, 08:49:59 pm »
Yeah, I know that is not just Diplo, but he is man behind all, he is the mastermind of that group.

Look to the musical stylings is what mussar said, rather than person.

That's where the person got that sound.

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Instead of calling me a dickbutt, you could have checked google and done some homework. Or maybe opened up your DAW and listen to a saw wave and a sine wave, since literally every single synthesizer is capable of producing them. Put a spectral analyzer on top of it and look at what shows up.

The fundamentals are literally everywhere, why aren't you taking the initiative and finding it yourself?

Please, no more wave equations.....my physics I PTSD is coming back....

While we're at it, no more sigma notation or sequences....

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I would look at tutorials purely on how the instrument works, rather than having the goal to make a specific sound.

That way, you can better utilize the tool when it comes down to creating your own taste as an artist.

EDIT: You can always watch ANY thing other than the thing you're trying to learn, to gain a better appreciate and understanding of signal chain as well...

take something from other things that aren't what you're looking at, directly, and apply it directly to the thing you're looking at.

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Mixing/Mastering / Re: Steps to achieve loudness
« on: April 30, 2016, 04:09:47 pm »
The less you have going on at once the louder you can push a limiter/utility/whatever you use, and if you have more going on the less loud it can be. That's why people lime Diplo/A-Track have one synth and drums and it's super loud while someone with more going on like Jamie xx will tend to be much quieter.

biggest of advices

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the tutorials that reason posts are actually really beneficial, and speaks grounds across many daws.

The problem is, you have to figure out a way for the chain to work with other daws.

But, good stuff to know about.

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If someone across the world can work 8 hours a day manufacturing dildos in a factory then why should I not be able to do the same with music regardless of whether I feel happy or not?

There's no demand for your music.

That's the answer to that.

The mindset isn't about where you're getting paid to do something, it's the motivation to DO that something. You think that dildo maker was growing up and saying "one day i wanna make dildos until i die"?

Problem, is that the emotional state when doing things make it all the more difficult to actually do the things. The part that makes us human, is also the part that pretty much dictates our choices. We have words like obligation to describe that state.

So, once again, this is purely getting up and getting to work. What makes you actually get the fuck out of bed in the morning?

It's not a shared mindset, it's THEIR mindset because IT WORKS FOR THEM (caps for emphasis), they don't know you, they don't know what you do, they don't know how you really are.

Do you even know who/what you really are?

and then, because of your persistence, always goes back to a deeper state of understanding the self before you can really become accomplished in life.

or at least understanding it enough for you to learn to grow.

Attitude makes you get up from falling down, and make it up the hill. You can still crawl if you're not dead. You only stop when you're dead, and completely done. Other wise, you move as far as you can until you get to your goal. (just don't be a dick, because people will help you).

And if you're not doing that, then you're in the way or something is in the way. But you can still always crawl.

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