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Mixing/Mastering / Re: Tips for Clean Mix like Professionals
« on: January 14, 2016, 08:48:52 pm »
When you listen to the first 10 seconds of this song, you hear some kind of white noise and it sweeps from left to right and back through automation. That makes the intro interesting.

Of course you don't want to create a mix that's lopsided. The main parts (kick, snare, lead and bass) are in the middle. Genres like this play around much with FX. Like a pingpong delay on hihats or on risers, stuff like that.

@ 1:00 you hear a lead (+bassline?) that's very wide. Yes, it's in the middle but there are also parts on the sides left and right. Probably small delays that are panned, wide reverbs (there are reverb plugis with 200% wideness, for instance). If this was just one synth in the middle, it wouldn't sound that massive. The guy who mixed this, did a great job, making use of stereo width!

But you're right, don't expect to find a certain instrument completely panned to 1 side.

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Imagine a rock group, tuning the kick drum for each song they play.  ;D
Rock groups don't have a sub bass.

No, but it's all about kick drum tuning. Human ear almost can't hear a tone in sub bass:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sub-bass

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Finished Tracks / Re: Avyan - Within feat. Holly [Melodic Dubstep]
« on: January 14, 2016, 04:01:59 pm »
It's only in the drop.

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What an interesting soothing song!!

The snare sound is powerful and wide. The delay on the voice is fantastic and the song keeps interesting until the end.

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Nice uplifting melody, this song makes me happy!

It's pretty loud but it doesn't feel squashed like a pancake. Thumbs up!!


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Finished Tracks / Re: Aleyum & Cynereal - Galactic Walk
« on: January 14, 2016, 02:22:47 pm »
Whoa!! First song I encounter on this forum that's not overcompressed or overlimited. Congratulations!

It could use a bit more high frequencies, yes, a gentle high shelf filter starting @ 5 kHz could do the trick.

I was impressed with the stereo width.

Tbh, I don't know if the drums should be raised in volume, I think it suits the 'gentleness' of the song.

EDIT: I opened the song in my daw and I see that the song is limited at - 6 dBFS. So it's possible to turn the song up by 6 dB without addition limiting. The loudest parts gave me 10 dB RMS and no distortion. Nicely mixed!

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Finished Tracks / Re: Avyan - Within feat. Holly [Melodic Dubstep]
« on: January 14, 2016, 02:16:37 pm »
The panning of the strings is very nice!! I like the fact that it's very melodic.

The kick distorts terribly because it's mastered too loud but I hear it on each and every song on this forum.

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Imagine a rock group, tuning the kick drum for each song they play.  ;D

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Track sounds fine but the vocal is competely out of tune. I think it's best to remove it.

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R&A Graveyard / Re: "Finished Tracks" Section Sucks rn
« on: January 14, 2016, 10:51:55 am »
Name Calling?

Can you quote the name calling? I can't find it.

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Well that's a bit harsh... No faith in my taste?

I don't know your taste, no comments on that.  ;)

But clipping the sound into the red is adding distortion. Is it your purpose to add distortion while creating the song? Distortion can be a good thing when done on purpose, but just sending channels into the red sounds like a broken amplifier.

I was just refering to the basics of audio production, no personal insult intended.

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Gain staging is the process of managing the relative levels in a series of gain stages to prevent introduction of noise and distortion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gain_stage

https://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep13/articles/level-headed.htm

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Finished Tracks / Re: Water- Fade Productions
« on: January 14, 2016, 10:15:13 am »
This song is so stupidly loud that hte kick has no punch at all.

The minibreak @ 1:00 has an RMS of - 3 dB... This loudness makes it unbearable to listen to.

It's my honest opinion, not my purpose to give you a bad feeling. There's lot of work in the mixing, starting with the low frequencies.

It has a nice catching melody, though.

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Finished Tracks / Re: Porter Robinson - Hear the Bells (Seafarer Remix)
« on: January 14, 2016, 10:07:37 am »
Lovely song (although I don't know the original).

Yeah, the subbass is lacking and I'm afraid there can't be much done about that without making the song less loud.

But besides that, nice arrangement!

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after hearing Flux say some of his tracks go into the red, I just do whatever sounds good now.

This is only fine when you are working in 32 bit floating point or if you want to ruin your music before it is finished.

When I mix my songs, I bring up the kick so it has 12 dB of headroom. When all faders are brought up, I usually end with 3-9 dB of headroom. I take care of the final loudness while mastering.

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Finished Tracks / Re: Micimago - STAR (Original Mix)
« on: January 14, 2016, 09:36:46 am »
Wow, that's loud!!

Now read/see some info about the loudness wars:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gmex_4hreQ

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war

It's up to you if you join the wars or not but the fact that I heard that your music was very loud (listening to an whole album this loud would be ear fatigueing) means something.

Cheers


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