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i vary my decay and attack. even though it's quantized, there's still a little bit of timing that won't match up precisely.

midi that is quantized for me, just serves as a trigger. you can adjust the feel of the instrumentation by the various settings you have available to you.

plus the different attack times help layer your sounds. this is helps eliminate building up transients in one area.

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Your art is a reflection of yourself.

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people can dance with out drums.

drums are there just to characterize the rhythm and makes it easier to dance to.

you can have instruments that carry the rhythm in certain ways. It just might not have the same impact as a kick and snare would.

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I don't use multi band stuff, but from what i've read about it and with experimentation and eq should work just fine.

You might need to get a low pass and a high pass as well.

Consider how you want to build your sound and what you want to focus on.

and by what you described you might need to introduce different distortion types and settings on each layer you have.

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Music production encompasses many aspects of the musical realm.

If you aren't well versed in at least one or many of the sides of music,  you'll going to have to grind through a ton of stuff to get the idea of one thing.

it's taken me six year and a few gear upgrades to fully undrestand and learn the technical side of music production.

So keep that in mind.

Seven months ain't a pimple on the ass of the life time spent in the journey of this art form.

take it slow, compartmentalize your problems, and work on things as they come. take notes and be diligent.

i also suggest you consider an academic route and self learning if you plan on making this a career.

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Inspiration/Creativity/Motivation / Re: what's your goal?
« on: July 15, 2016, 03:00:48 am »
Mechanical engineering degree, build/invest in a studio, make original songs for sets and play them out, live to an old age.

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Samples/Plugins/Software/Gear / Re: Amp Vs. Audio Interface
« on: July 15, 2016, 02:59:29 am »
Yes.

an interface allows you to record, given you have enough pre amps to go with those inputs.

an amplifier just sends power to your headphones or w/e. and in that case, the interface does that as well.

I am unsure of the sonic properties of an amplifier, but it seems that it might be colored given certain features and components of the amp itself (ie, if it has eq or w/e).

Get an interface dude, unless you just want to be an audiophile.

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Subtractive EQ before side chain compression, or any form of compression for that matter to me generates the best results. Cut out those yucky and useless frequencies first before compression. Then Additive EQ (if necessary) after the compressor. So if you have spots in the sound that you can and want to boost, this is where you would do it. In short, sometimes you'll need 2 EQs, both before and after the compressor.

I like this approach. I was definitely referring to a lead channel that is sidechained to my kick and snare

that's no different than just EQing then.


What Zau described works best if you have an EQ then a compressor all in one channel.

I got some more information, and to me, the input signal to a side chain is really just being used to activate the compressor. So it's not actually altering the signal of the side chain. unless you wanna read my theory about parallel input gain being augmented by the EQ causing the side chain to be weird.

But also consider where you're putting your side chain compression on the signal you want to be side chained to your kick/snare. that will have an effect ranging from subtle to extreme,

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From the way he describes it, the EQ is on the sound being sidechained, not the sounds (kick and snare) triggering the sidechain.

I didn't quite see that with the given examples.

Thank you for clarifying.

If the EQ is on the sound that's being side chained, the only effect it will bring would be as if you just threw an EQ and started altering that effect.



That leads me to believe that the side chain compressor location is what might alter your sound in a way that i've described in the previous post. But that's dependent upon certain processing of effects and what not.

The only difference in the above statement would be how drastic effects are being played out given where the side chain is located in the signal chain. and this is an extremely subtle effect.

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I don't see how it wouldn't matter.

If side chain compression is a parallel signal that's activating a compressor, and that parallel signal is being processed with an eq, then wouldn't the compressor be activating based on a certain frequency based on what the eq is doing?

edit:the only way it wouldn't matter is that, you're only taking just some(either more or less based on eq settings) SIGNAL from the parallel out to activate the compressor. By eqing, you're adjusting the signal characteristic to influence how the compressor is activating.

we know what is activating it, but that's being changed some where along the path.

but during the path to the compressor, it could just end up being some kind of weird input gain thing that the eq is doing based on frequency. in that case, then you'd only be getting a difference of input amplitude and not actually adjusting the compressor's output frequency context.

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Consider your effects chain and what you're actually trying to achieve.

i'll explain this with distortion and reverb.

The differences between a distorted reverb and a distortion that's being reverb hold different properties and are much different.


If you want to get reverb that has the characteristics of some kind of distortion, lets say tape. Then you'd apply a reverb unit then the tape distortion in order to get a reverb that has been recorded on to tape or is being distorted by tape.

The other way around, a distortion unit that has reverb being applied to it, is slightly different. In this case, it's as if you're taking a distorted signal and adding reverb to it.



Back to the topic.

It depends on what you want to do with your signal and how you want it to effect the processing, as i've stated before. So do you want to have a pre-eq effect, where as your EQ would shape the frequency content that the side chain is being effected? or do you want to process the signal after the channel is side chained?

in this case, you must look to your side chain channel and ask yourself if you want to effect that particular signal in a PRE or POST effect fashion.

the PRE and POST settings are also useful for sends/return, auxiliary, and buss effects (just to throw out as many names for them as possible).


Go do some research on PRE and POST signal processing and apply it to your question that you have. when you apply and experiment, you will have a better understanding.

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Inspiration/Creativity/Motivation / Re: Ill Gates tweeted this out
« on: July 07, 2016, 08:16:35 pm »
You would hope that with hard work and skill, you'd reap the benefits of success.

That's only part of the solution, and certain concepts aren't being mentioned when it does to actually come down to it.

Attitude is a big differentiation between people.

Learning is another.

so is adaptability.

Now, all of that said, we can all agree on that resource(management, consumption, and availability) all rely on external circumstances and the willingness to go get it.

What this article is talking about and what every one here is talking about, is piecing together the entire puzzle in order to explain how life works and how you can ultimately shape it with your attitude to manifest your ideas of your own lifestyle.

Quite honestly, the fixation of certain topics aren't what the real issue is. The real issue is actually creating the type of understanding that it takes to make people go get what they want out of life. But, as what Lydian said, that comes with a certain understanding of what's available to you.



You can talk about how your way is best or w/e and argue about perspective, but quite honestly it's just different paths to the same road (i would know due to countless argument with my older brother).


To see the bigger picture, you need empathy for others (not direct and blind bias) and you need to be practicing self mastery, before you can even think to talk about this topic.




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Inspiration/Creativity/Motivation / Re: Ill Gates tweeted this out
« on: July 06, 2016, 03:27:51 am »
Except we don't live in a "creative space", we live in reality. My art is inspired by the world around me, and the world around me contains unfortunate levels of disparity due to systematic factors. My "creative space" is designed by the truth, and I don't shy away from it. While I'm writing this right now, I can see a man outside my window sleeping on the street. Are you really trying to tell me that he's there because he "failed to apply himself"? Are you really trying to get me to buy that because you're "aggravated" by the truth, that you somehow get to dismiss the indisputable facts of the world at large?

Child, please.

I don't care about your inspiration. It seems your reality only serves your own insecurities about success, so if you fail you can blame it on "disparity" and the "truth" of how the world works.

And yes, that man (barring medical limitations) is on the street because he failed to provide for himself. Doesn't take any amount of intelligence to figure that out. Are you implying he got there by accident? That he was born on the street and never thought to take care of himself? There are a lot of homeless people in my city, and you know what? The vast majority I've spoken to say they chose to be homeless because they enjoy the freedom. 

Everyone has the same opportunity to make a life for themselves. Whether we get there or not is completely based on the choices we make. It seems you believe the system's rigged, anyone who isn't raised with privilege has next to zero opportunity, and that somehow by pointing out the struggles of those people-which you can in no way sympathize with behind your macbook at a Starbucks-you're on their side. By giving credence to the notion that inequality plays any sort of significant factor in success, you continue to give power to that same thing you claim to be so passionately against.

If every one has a choice, then that means they have as much power over you as you have of yourself.

so then your argument is nullified by the fact of the individual's choice.


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Inspiration/Creativity/Motivation / Re: Ill Gates tweeted this out
« on: July 05, 2016, 01:24:24 am »
We're talking about actually being successful, not getting a job. Opposite ends of the spectrum.

If you don't see the underlining contexts that are associated with growth opportunity and resources, you are the one who is mistaken.

You've already stated your bias and lack of empathy in your quote towards eidolon. therefore, your argument is nullified in your support to the thought of "if you work hard you will be successful." and "if you don't have this disposition naturally you're already a looser."

well, i'll say bullshit.  What makes you think an infant has the skills necessary to do basic elementary level math? or even most other skills at the elementary level?

In your light, we should all be already to do calculus within seconds of vacating the womb.

Why do those statistics matter? because it's exactly what this article is talking about, in which you seem to neglect or ignore (at this point;but what ever makes you sleep).



The only critique that eidolon really had to make was that the man who was writing the article might have been in a better position to extract already existing resources, on top of the fact that he might have been learned well enough to understand where his god damn bread was being buttered.

Aside from the choice of words, i'd agree with eidolon (and my rebut was rather tough to craft, but we're not in disagreement).



Last point, you're just increasing the writers points by saying what you said.

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"Good" is subjective, technically proficient is objective.

Technically proficient can be objectively analyzed - utilizing music theory or a synthesizer in a way that could not be achieved by a novice, an understanding of the proper use of EQ and compression, or possessing the ability to play an instrument or sing well. We can compare scientific details, like a lack of unwanted phasing or noise, a higher perceived degree of loudness without a loss in clarity or dynamics, or a "clean" mix with no undesired masking of frequencies. All you need is another song that has a better metric in the category you're looking for.

Good is entirely based on your taste and your perception. Whether your mixdown is cleanly divided like a well crafted prackage or blending together like the ingredients in a cake to end up warm and delicious; whether your sounds are heavily distorted or pure and clean; whether that melody should be quantized to the grid or left a little sloppy. These are questions you'll have to ask yourself, and this is where you need to start looking into yourself and looking into your past. What do your inspirations sound like? What sort of music did you listen to as a child, and how did that sound? What were the sounds of the city or town you lived in? What were the sounds of your school? Of your friends, or family?

All in all, the goal is to remember that you do not exist inside of a vacuum, and that other people are your reference point.
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