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Messages - Tiongcy

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Should be awarded the title: "Spent too much time here other than producing! :D"

This hahaha too true  ;D

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A quick question on Sidechain -

Does anyone ever use multiband sidechain compression? In this particular instance, I'm looking to duck only the Sub from my Bass bus but not the higher frequencies. I was playing with Trackspacer for this purpose.

Would be interested to see what other techniques people use.

Kill the noise posted a video on facebook regarding this. Will try to find it and link it here

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Mixing/Mastering / Re: How should you layer supersaws?
« on: January 08, 2016, 02:36:01 am »
I would do some surgical eqing. I pick a main supersaw that will dominate the pswctrum then layer very thin ones that would fill gaps. Then would make them really wide.

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Inspiration/Creativity/Motivation / What/Who inspired you to start?
« on: January 08, 2016, 02:33:16 am »
I think it would be a good idea to know each other stories so that maybe we could find ways to get inspired or get to know one another.

I got inspired after seeing kaskade play here in the philippines. His set really moved me and after that i decided to shift from studying engineering to music production.

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WIPs / Re: My bass is always muddy and sloppy
« on: January 07, 2016, 11:52:17 pm »

They are great i just wish i could use them properly lol ;)

For the longest time i was using a pair of in-ear skull candies but they seemed to have to much bass so i would naturally make my bass softer. on my monitors its the opposite causing me to make the bass louder. i cant seem to find a happy medium so iv just kind of been guessing. any recommendations?

Those earphones actually have bass boosters which is why it is too loud and heavy. hmmmm if you would have the money i suggest buying decent headphones that have flat responses so that you can hear the basses at the right volume and the sound will be true. if not I think try referencing tracks that have similar basslines and look at their bass frequencies to help you along. Lastly I would suggest using the meters as guide to its volume but also use your ears.

it looks like ill need to invest in some better head phones. last night i tried using meters to balance out my bass and i was still having issues :-[ im probably just tone def from having a obnoxious sub woofer in my car for the last 4 years lol

Good headphones are really worth it and if you take time to search youll find really good deals on them. Bought a audio technica 500pro mk2s and have been using them for 3 years. Got them at a steal too!

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Sound Design / Re: The Sound Design Symposium! 2016
« on: January 07, 2016, 11:48:17 pm »
Here's one! This is one of the basses in a drumstep ID I'm working on.

https://clyp.it/baymk3am

Basic scream bass; sounds kind of like the drop in Knife Party's remix of "Crush On You". Made using Harmor. For post processing, some stereo shaping might be necessary to bring the sub down to mono, but you can just cut the sub out and add your own.

How to make it:

Start with a supersaw. I used 4 unison voices, with moderate detune (default should be fine). I mapped the pitch thickness to an envelope, so it starts detuned, then once all the unison voices are out of phase, they get closer together. This just adds a little squelch and stereo, you don't really need unison for it. Tune it down 2 octaves with the pitch slider, Freq divider, or just playing really low.

Harmonic prism, with the default prism shape, and turn the Amount knob just a tiiiiny bit to the left. This is where the squelch comes from. Knife Party's basses have a lot of interesting stuff happening in the highs, something I've always admired, and this channels just a little of that. This is something you can only do with additive synthesis; the prism moves each harmonic just a tiny bit out of sync with each other over time, but not so fast that they sound out of tune.

The screaming sound comes from really emphasizing just a few harmonics. The best way to do that is with a comb filter. Harmor doesn't really have a comb filter, but it has a good approximation of one with the "Deeper" phaser setting. Change the phaser mode from "Classic" to "Deeper", set it to Harmonic ("harm"), turn the mix all the way up, turn the width almost all the way up, zero the speed, and mess with the offset until the first peak is somewhere in the mids.

Map the phaser offset to an envelope that starts at the bottom and rises up to the middle, so the scream rises up. And while you're here, do the same thing to the main pitch. If you want to get a sub out of this too, raise the harmonic protection ("prot" slider at the top) a little. To finish, add Log distortion (amount about halfway, filter all the way up) and reverb.

To get the "dipping" effect, turn on legato, hold a note, and play a lower note (more than an octave down) really quickly over and over.

Here's how it works:

Technically, this is a bass, but when you start with a saw, you end up with a range of harmonics that spans the whole audible spectrum (pretty much). The phaser cuts most of them out, starting at the bottom, and leaves just a few peaks. These peaks aren't single harmonics, though; they're clusters of a few harmonics close together.

Quick psychology lesson: what we perceive as "screaming" comes from nonlinear sound. These are sounds that don't act like normal sounds, instead of being a fundamental and overtones, all neatly organized at multiples of each other. Horrified screams are nonlinear. So's the sound of nails scraping on a chalkboard.

By cutting out the lower overtones, this sound tricks the listener into thinking the fundamental is way higher than it really is; instead of being down in the sub bass, it's off in the mids. But because each "peak" is really a few different harmonics, it sounds nonlinear.

I'll update this if anyone thinks that explanation sucked.

Wow this is really cool will give this a try

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WIPs / Re: My bass is always muddy and sloppy
« on: January 07, 2016, 01:12:35 pm »

They are great i just wish i could use them properly lol ;)

For the longest time i was using a pair of in-ear skull candies but they seemed to have to much bass so i would naturally make my bass softer. on my monitors its the opposite causing me to make the bass louder. i cant seem to find a happy medium so iv just kind of been guessing. any recommendations?

Those earphones actually have bass boosters which is why it is too loud and heavy. hmmmm if you would have the money i suggest buying decent headphones that have flat responses so that you can hear the basses at the right volume and the sound will be true. if not I think try referencing tracks that have similar basslines and look at their bass frequencies to help you along. Lastly I would suggest using the meters as guide to its volume but also use your ears.

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Samples/Plugins/Software/Gear / Re: Headphones Vs Speakers
« on: January 07, 2016, 01:04:24 pm »
Really depends on the monitors you will be buying. Monitors usually dont have the frequency range for sub basses so it will be really difficult to mix. I suggest as starting out get the really good headphones that have a flat response so that you can really hear what the true sound is.

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Mixing/Mastering / Re: Your Favourite Reference Tracks
« on: January 07, 2016, 01:01:15 pm »
I use alot of knife party's tracks for referencing especially the low end. it sounds really really tight hahaha

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Madeon - Icarus (Pre-chorus chord blasts part) [I made the sidechain too strong]
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Alesso - Cool (Drop)
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Porter Robinson - Spitfire (Arp)
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Steve Angello & DV & Wyman - Paypack (Drop)
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Audien - Iris (Supersaw & Bass)
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Rafael Frost - New York (Drop, couldn't get the kick right)
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Porter Robinson - The Thrill RMX (Drop, forgot to turn up the sub though lol)
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Laszlo - Our Arrival
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Manse - Freeze Time
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Dubvision - Turn It Around
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Porter Robinson - My Nostalgia is a Curse / Ultra 2013 ID
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Some of these projects may be hard to find because I title my work horribly, so it may be difficult to give full details for some things but I'm pretty sure I have most of these projects.


Wooow your remakes are really good!

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Mixing/Mastering / Re: Side-chain
« on: January 07, 2016, 08:21:40 am »


I have used it, I found it wasn't as precise as I would like to be, I found the peak controller method to be a little bit better IMO but you gotta take that with a grain of salt because I'm bad lol

Each to his own i guess haha bassjackers would use grossbeat on their chorus leads. I would also use the fl limiter method

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Composition/Arrangement/Theory / Re: Creativity and Composition (TIPS)
« on: January 07, 2016, 08:14:53 am »
For me listening to the sounds of the city and the sounds of nature really get my creativity flowing

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Composition/Arrangement/Theory / Re: Scale Basics
« on: January 07, 2016, 08:00:29 am »
Modes and scales are fine, but music that just stays in one scale or mode isn't very interesting (IMO). The best melodies change scales or modes halfway through, or meander through many different ones--but still remain catchy enough to get stuck in my head and hum later. (Again, IMO) Some good examples of this are the vocal part to "Black Hole Sun" by Soundgarden, the Carmen Suite by Georges Bizet, or even the Star Spangled Banner (which introduces a sharp 4th part of the way through).

Then if you really want to get crazy, introduce dissonance or semitones. For example, Arabic scales use a quarter-flat 2nd, and Indian music often will use quarter-tones to accent parts of a melody or throw it "off-balance" for a second.

I agree you should really to change keys or modes in a single song. I suggest studying the different kinds of modulation

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Mixing/Mastering / Re: Is mastering always neccesary?
« on: January 07, 2016, 03:56:52 am »
Hey guys, I'm really sucks at mastering track at first and now I still learning how to mastering the track perfectly. can you guys give me  some advice so I can make my track better than before ? Btw, I'm using FL Studio 12. Sorry for asking. Future music producer here. I'm still new :)

Play around with maximus. It has good mastering presets and try to understand what everything does.

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Mixing/Mastering / Re: Mixing the bass with the sub
« on: January 07, 2016, 03:13:10 am »
I've actually got a question thats really similar to this, when you guys make electro, bass heavy tracks, do you leave the main bass' sub region on or chop it and throw on a dedicated sub? I usually do the 2nd technique but im curious as to how other people do it.

I would chop of the bass and have a dedicated sub works for me haha

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