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Messages - iamtesko

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Delete all the patches that you don't use or sound bad in Massive, Serum, whatever and narrow it down to a few quality ones.

Better yet, and I'm not sure if other daws have something similar but if you're in ableton, save each patch in an instrument rack and put all those instruments in a folder in your personal library sorted by type or timbre. Saves the time of going through your VST's organizational system. Also what I've done is save an EQ and a utility with the gain mapped to Macro 1. I use EQ and volume automation on almost every track so I save a bunch of time by having it already pre loaded. For patches that have macros in the VST, say the vibrato macro in massive, I'll assign that to an external macro in the Instrument Rack so it's already set up next time and I don't have to open up massive.

Also make use of setting default tracks. I have mine so that every Audio or Midi Track opens with an EQ and Utility. Midi tracks automatically open up with massive. I use massive and serum about 50/50 so half the time I need a sound I don't even need to go looking for my VST.

Lastly, everything Mussar said. It's all solid advice, have a plan before you write!

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@Lydian thanks for all that. I'd definitely be down to skype if you have some time, sent you a pm!

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Sound Design / Re: Drum Fills
« on: January 23, 2016, 04:23:13 am »
MT Power Drum kit 2 is awesome and free
http://www.powerdrumkit.com/

If you have some $$ to invest, look into Superior Drummer, Steven Slate, or some of the other options. The good thing about Drum programs like these is they come with a bunch of pre programmed beats and fills that you can adjust to taste. They're all multisampled so you can get some really nice, realistic fills using these programs.

As far as actual fill patterns, listen to the part before or after the fill and try to feel out the groove. You can place accent hits according to the most basic groove/feel of the section and fill in the incidentals to taste

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@Lydian and Cryophonic, thank you! This is what I was talking about, and I should have rephrased "complex". I'm not talking like crazy extensions and voicings but rather I should have said "less boring" haha.

Here's some progressions I pulled from my songs, I added some comments on the track just breaking down what I did roughly, what I like and where I feel they're lacking.
https://soundcloud.com/iamtesko/progressions/s-jJCtv

As far as other artist's progressions that I like:

https://soundcloud.com/nghtmre/its-alright-remix

I transcribed this one into midi before and these were my findings:
8 bars long
Key of Bm
no fifths besides in the first chord which is just root and fifth, third intervals give these chords their feel. The roots of the chords ascend diatonically through the scale until the drop before the last chord in the sequence. Every chord before this is a buildup to this mini-tension/resolution (if you can call it that).

These chords are C#m - A - Bm. C# to A is a major third down, A to B is major second up. Also A is the seventh chord of the scale which resolves nicely to the "home" chord B. Cryophonik, I see what you mean here by ascending by seconds/fourths and descending by thirds/fifths. I'm going to stay conscious of this now.

Also worth noting, the chords generally hit on offbeats which keeps the groove going and makes the last chord, which hits on the first beat of the bar, hit way way more stronger.

Next Progression, Jon Hopkin's Abandon is the most beautiful thing I've ever heard. Took some time to deconstruct it and here's what I found:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc1IkYwKCtM

I used this site which gave me the chords. Normally I'd figure it out by ear but this would be lengthier than I have the time to do today

https://chordify.net/chords/jon-hopkins-abandon-window-immunity-album-version-jack-somerset?transpose=0

This one is also in the key of B major I believe. Just for my own convenience, chords of B are:
B C#min D#min Emaj F#maj G#min Adim

The progression is
B D#m F# C# F# Abm
B F# C# F#
B F# D#m
I'll keep it at that as it's super long

but looking at the rest of it, yeah I'm finding that trick to be true here as well but I wouldn't have guessed it based on the previous analysis considering how much more emotional this one is. I'm guessing that comes from the fact that its in a major key. I know the minor = sad, major = happy idea doesn't always hold true but I guess I'm just so used to writing in minor keys that I never would have figured it might be in a major key. It could be possible that it's in it's relative minor but the B major chord does seem to be the "home" chord here.

Got a bit in depth there but I felt it was worth sharing. Those are two progressions that have stood out to me that I can recall right now.

My background is in melodic/progressive metal music so I know how to construct a bunch of "complex" chords on the fretboard and theoretically but I'm finding even when I'm able to translate it in the piano roll I can't make anything useable, as in a sensible progression that leads somewhere. I love the "spacey" feel of second intervals and ninths but I'm finding that harder to implement in the electronic world. Even using sixths and sevenths begins to sound cliche future bass when used on every chord.

So I suppose a more concise question would be, are there any resources that you guys know that would help me get a better understanding of how to use these extended chords more "methodically" (i guess, stuck to find the right word here) and anywhere where I can learn more on voice leading! I know my knowledge is definitely lacking in that department. Lastly, is there anything I should be taking note of in the future that I didn't note in these deconstructions here that would be a significant factor in the feel of a progression?

Again thanks for your guys' help, this is what I was looking for!

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@Lydian I'll get back to you on that today man, thanks!

I understand when people give the "practice" advice, I get it, but that doesn't really help me out. I specifically asked for resources to help me understand why progressions work, as in why does V resolve nicely into I, why do some chords lead nicely into others (something about voice leading im assuming?), how to properly use inversions, etc.

There's definitely some theoretical aspect here that I don't know that'd help me get a better idea of what works. From there comes something I could actually practice.

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So I've been playing guitar a long ass time so I know my basic theory (scales, intervals, constructing chords, etc) and I've written some melodically complex stuff, I just feel like I don't have the best understanding of how to create chord progressions, or rather why certain chords work they way they do with eachother. I've checked out a ton of stuff online already but nothing I've found really goes in depth.

Every so often I can write a dope chord progression but it's hit or miss every session, I'd like to have a bit more in depth understanding of that stuff so what resources could you guys recommend me?

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None of my friends seem to like this one but I think it's fucking ridiculous. When I'm huge and headlining festivals definitely gonna drop this one ;) I feel like this would slay live. Its easily one of my favourite tracks currently so I gotta show it some love, hopefully you guys dig

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WIPs / Re: Chipstep/Chiptuney Dubsteppy thing. Opinions please?
« on: January 12, 2016, 11:47:18 pm »
digging the chiptune vibe, its getting me nostalgic about 2nd gen pokemon haha. also reminds me of early monstercat. Piano could use a touch of reverb I'd say. I also agree you could widen up the lead a bit. The groove in the drop sounds really mechanical when the drums start playing quicker like 1:05, mess with the velocities of some of the hits. I'm digging the dubsteppy wobbles and stuff between the chords. the one at 0:48 sounds a bit dull imo, maybe just raise the highs in your eq. This is cool though man, really liking the vibe behind this one!

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WIPs / Re: Progressive House WIP (Any ways to improve the track)
« on: January 12, 2016, 11:42:12 pm »
writing as i listen. the intro is real nice man, i dig the clock in the background. Buildup is really well done but the part at 1:01 doesnt deliver. Try making it a bit bigger, maybe use a brighter piano, and a crash. The vocals during the drop are a bit loud imo, I really dig the chord progression though. The mix sounds nice and full here, I'm digging the incidentals you added, like right before the second part of the drop, that kind of growly background thing. not sure how I feel about the break after the drop, its not terrible. Couldn't even tell you what it is about it but first reaction was that something felt a little weird. Transition to the buildup is well done, it sounds better in context here than it did in the intro but I think you could still benefit from making the piano bigger. Also maybe some risers or white noise to fill out the spectrum. Also, I'm sure I don't have to tell you its missing an outro haha, but yeah man its pretty much there. Solid ideas, just need to polish up the mix a bit and it should be good to go!

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WIPs / Re: Chorus/"Drop" sounding weak/odd on some of my tracks!?
« on: January 12, 2016, 11:35:06 pm »
Agreed with the muddy low end of the mix, also it hits fine for the amount of tension you've built up. Dont underestimate the importance of a good buildup. Taking out some lows gradually over the course of the buildup is something I do a lot. also study this http://edmprod.com/tension/ , i hope you like reading. It's a bit long but absolutely worth it

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WIPs / Re: Future thing [WIP]
« on: January 11, 2016, 09:35:02 pm »
I think everyone else just about hit it on the head. Work on the transition after the first drop, tempo changes are pretty hard to pull off I find but maybe introduce it more minimally? You could probably even speed it up gradually (+ maybe fade it in until the next break). Gotta say I wasnt a fan when you slowed it down in the buildup but in the context of the whole track it makes sense, and it adds more energy to the second drop. I absolutely love the drop I gotta say, its beautiful. How did you make those saws?

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WIPs / Re: Didgeridoo trap!
« on: January 11, 2016, 09:26:09 pm »
I'm a fan of the screechy lead. Dope ideas here man, I'd say the drop still feels like its missing something though in some areas. It doesn't sound "full" all the way through out if you know what I mean. Looking forward to hearing the full thing, I dig it

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WIPs / Re: Trap WIP
« on: January 11, 2016, 09:22:25 pm »
I agree with sidechaining the drop leads to the growl, its not too present as is. Vocal chops could be cool for sure but it's pretty banging even as is. I dig the buildup sound too. The switch up at 2:05 was a nice touch. Nice work man

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Well, from my point of view, it's just a pain to set everything to +0.50, especially when working with synthesizers. I'm not sure though really, I feel like I might try it properly and see how it goes. I think it's just a personal laziness (Which I'm also guilty for :P)

However I believe this producer uses quarter tones in his melody sections which you might find interesting. Check out 0:41.

Dude thanks for sharing, this is amazing!

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usually between 30-50 for me. Every different sound gets its own channel. Less layers = easier to mix. Also its easier to be clear with what you're trying to convey with your song. I'm finding I used to use way more tracks before and now that I've been aiming to simplify my workflow, I've been getting better results.

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