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yea looks liked it.

Not bad, the instruments are definitely the focus of your mix. Which is cool, but i think the overall volume of the audible instruments can be turned down in favor of the drums.

It gets a little harsh, especially in the upper registry. with the current volume set. Plus your drums would really cause the song to drive along more, especially since the music is mostly groove based.

Watch your high end additions to EQ, you have good sounds that shouldn't need much!!

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WIPs / Re: Vera - Pure | Opinions wanted :)
« on: March 26, 2016, 04:34:03 pm »
I agree with what has been said.

I think you may need to add some character to your sounds overall.

Your mixing isn't that bad, it's just not cohesive with the sound i am hearing and what the music is about.

I'd also would of chosen different samples, it doesn't fit the character of the music. I'd suggest more acoustic sounds rather than 'RAW EDM BANGER" samples.

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Sound Design / Re: Compressing Reverb Sends/Aux?
« on: March 25, 2016, 02:55:17 pm »
I had heard about this but whenever I tried it out it I never got justifiable results. However, saw this today (although he doesn't use a send in this video) and for some reason it all just clicked in my head.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDQSnV0cBMg

No he's using a send, but on a channel basis and not on a mixer send/return channel basis.

Basically bussing.

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You gotta practice and you gotta invest into quality equipment, and continue to practice.

You can buy relatively cheap stuff and sit and complain as to why you're not getting the results you want.

Every thing else has been said from the emotional to the technical concepts.

You just have to grind it out and continue to progress in quality (skills and equipment).

I'd bury my head deep into skills though if i had to choose one. The equipment you choose helps refine skills in ways.

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Sound Design / Re: Compressing Reverb Sends/Aux?
« on: March 24, 2016, 09:57:15 pm »
I tried this out and it was pretty interesting.

I don't use compression on my effect settings unless i really need to control the dynamics of the sound.

that being said, the settings should come from the source you're treating.

Treat it more like master compression if you're using it like a BUS/AUX and treat it like an instrument if you're just compressing one instance of a reverb.

I will say that, it may come in handy if you have a few reverbs going on at once in your track. That character might give it some great flavor if you can manage to mix and balance the ideas carefully.

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Mixing/Mastering / Re: Idea for mixing practice?
« on: March 24, 2016, 09:54:45 pm »
There's a website that does this exact thing, but it just provides the stems than commentary.

Good idea though.

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Sound Design / Re: Confusion around EQ'ing terminology.
« on: March 24, 2016, 05:35:22 pm »
I get that, but if you understood how to speak about your tool, you wouldn't of asked the question in the first place.

My comments were not about configuration, but of pure understanding the tool that you use, other wise, see above.

and i'll stress that, understanding the tool would give you the ability to speak about the tool you are using, not all of the tools available but the tool that you use.

from there you can get information from other people to best use the tools that you are unfamiliar with.

This is an understanding problem as i see it. Unless some information is not being given.

I didn't know what actually defined the EQ placement, or what could be used, until this topic was started, so i thank you for that.


EDIT: I am not aiming to ruffle your feathers man, hopefully it's a perspective that's you may not be noticing. It's just hard to ignore my intuition and experience when things point in a certain direction.

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Sound Design / Re: Confusion around EQ'ing terminology.
« on: March 24, 2016, 03:51:26 am »
You gotta know your tools if you want to answer that question for yourself.

I don't see how the question is a matter of knowing you tools or not.

It's in fact the difference of how tools work that you need to understand. So UNDERSTANDING your tools is a big part of using your tools.

Other wise, if you knew exactly what your eq was doing, you wouldn't of asked the question in the first place, let alone the second question that you quoted me on.

I don't see how you can not think that it's not when it clearly is the problem.

Ark even brought up a point about differences in the graphs by different perspectives to ultimately give you a different result.


It may not differ by much, or it might, i don't know, but to throw out understanding is foolish. Let alone asking a question with out the purpose of understanding.

then don't waste your time or other people's.

How can you reasonably expect an accurate answer if you don't have some idea with what you're dealing with?


EDIT: I will say this, if you're not entirely confident in your understanding it's no use chasing a rabbit that you won't find unless you sit inside of a physics or math class room.

Just look up the schematics of your tool that's being modeled and see what you can muster from it.

other wise, we can't give you a clear answer if we don't understand the tool you're using.

Besides, your second question was mostly in terms of taste, excluding the knowledge of your tool.



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there's no personality in your melody.

Wontolla might be suggesting you need some more of you in your creation. Something a little more human.

It really sounds the same.

are you playing your melodies?

With what does my melodies sound the same? Or in what way?

Also for the latter part of your reply? What do you mean by quantizing your melody so it isn't on top of your beat? For me quantizing is fixing your midi information after recording it, to make sure everything is back on snap.

Thanks for the reply! :)

Yea your melodies sound the same. From the playing, to the sound, and the overall feel of them. It's sterile and with out character.

I said quantizing so that they ARE on the beat. It's exactly in line with the BPM of the track.

You can adjust the timing with attack of the synths/drum machines/fading.

Read carefully...

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Mixing/Mastering / Re: Sonic Clarity question?!
« on: March 23, 2016, 08:38:48 pm »
Yes, it's understanding frequency content of the sounds you're using and treating them properly in arrangement and mix.

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Sound Design / Re: Confusion around EQ'ing terminology.
« on: March 23, 2016, 12:22:34 am »
In this picture, the traditional -3db cutoff frequency is denoted by fc:


However, you can also specify the filter by the frequency where the stopband starts, i.e. after which the attenuation is as high as it gets. And my point was that, unlike I first assumed, the frequency control does not have the same meaning between different EQs, or even between different filters inside an EQ.

You're using information i do not have, i was just merely suggesting from instinct with out much data to back up my sayings.

That's an interesting graph though.

Hmm, seems like this post has gotten into a bit of a debate, and as a result has seemed to have gotten me even more confused :/

For a concrete example, let's say someone gives me the blanket advice of high-pass all kick drums at 100 Hz and low-pass all kick drums at 2 kHz. Do they mean?
a) The passband is from 100-2000 Hz.
or
b) The stopband should be from 0-200 Hz and 2 kHz-infinite, which would put the passband closer to something like 200-1500 Hz.

Not that it is a huge deal, I just want to be sure I'm speaking the same language as other folks.

You gotta know your tools if you want to answer that question for yourself.

If you want an easier route, use your ears and play it with the two conflicting elements and prioritize one in terms of the other. IE, if you want more sub bass than kick, cut the kick more. if you want more kick than sub, cut the sub more.

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Inspiration/Creativity/Motivation / Re: How to progress?
« on: March 22, 2016, 10:41:23 pm »
Don't use the internet as a measurement, unless you're actively spouting out to labels or blogs.

You need to make the connections through playing live shows, meeting folks who can get you to meet more folks, and having a good brand image and philosophy.


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sounds good man, thanks.

i have great equipment though, but it really is self doubt to defeat i feel like.

i own yamaha hs5, akai mpk61, s4, maschine, focusrite 2v4 and pioneer hdj-2000s

thanks man, ill try to get on pming you tomorrow, its bed time though here.

Speakers and headphones for equipment mate lol. But sure, i'll be waiting.

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Inspiration/Creativity/Motivation / Re: Thoughts on "Over" sampling?
« on: March 22, 2016, 03:36:04 am »
Machine, I would say that image applies fairly well to the topic if people decided not to apply reason behind their actions. :/ I never liked that analogy because it's going on the presumption that people can't put a line down where they realize that's the limit, though it does make a good point all the same, you can only get so "original".

The search for deeper meaning ends when you have found your ultimate answer. His was goat farming.

That aside, you can be as original as you want. especially now a days.

You can't let the use of music theory hinder your thinking when it comes to understanding literally hundreds of years of research and development and application of said topic.

I feel that, with so much music now. Introspection and understanding the self is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more important than just playing some friggin chords or making siqqqqqq wuuuuubbs brooooooooooooo.

You can literally learn to do that in under 3 months.

I feel that, with all this plur and hippie bullshit, you have to be one with yourself and actually master yourself if you want to be productive in a creative market.

all the business and shit can be dealt with the right type of trusting person, but as a creator you really have to master yourself to a point where you are ok and can learn from messing up.


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This brings up two questions for me.

- Is it a general consensus that if the entire spectrum is not filled up between my highest end and my lowest end that I should fill those spots with atmosphere / percussion / synth etc. ?

- If I have synths layered on each other (same ranges) and it sounds muddy, lets say the route I take is to take one out. I have now taken one out and the synth sounds weak / amateur. How would I make it sound full / professional? Am I to add another synth and hope it mesh's well with EQ or whatever else that needs to be done to it? I hope you understand what I mean by amateur, but I guess I don't know how else to put it at this moment.

I'm so upset that it freaking deleted my other response.

Your self is getting in the way of being productive.

I sense that you don't fully trust your ears and your equipment, might be time for an upgrade(avoid krk!!!!!)

let me put it this way...

You own a house. What do you want to put in to your house?

Do you want it bursting at the seams or do you want to have some things that are really nice but still respects the space you are in?

Plus that rug really ties the room together...

You can do so much with just one sound, you just may not be hearing it well enough to utilize it properly. Or you may be over analyzing what you're working with to a point of self doubt and defeat.

Review my response as before, because that's my answer to this most recent question you have, as it's a reiteration of your original post.

YOU need to figure out what YOU want, not what every one else thinks man.

YOU need to use YOUR tastes when it comes to what YOU want in YOUR track.

Understanding relationship between frequency of the instrument and it's part in the mix is crucial, and i think this is what you're ultimately missing.

PM me if you're interested in a 1 on 1 discussion.

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