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Samples/Plugins/Software/Gear / Re: Monitors Placement
« on: April 12, 2016, 11:49:47 pm »
i heard from some where, maybe a presonus thing, that it's slightly off center of the room and either above or below the half way point of the height of the room.

That's best for bedroom calibration.

Also getting your speakers at a proper angle  and know where that sweet spot is

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Mixing/Mastering / Re: Sounds being drowned out, where does it end?
« on: April 12, 2016, 11:48:09 pm »
That's a good point! So if for one section I wanted the chords to be the main focus and then have a lead come over the top, do you have any advice on how to then mix those, it doesn't made sense to then quieten the chords to make room for lead particularly if it's at a dramatic point in the song. Likewise I wouldn't want to just continually have to amplify each layer as it becomes the focus?
You have to make sacrifices in terms of volume balance to get the message across.

You also need to understand what the focus of the song should be for that section.

For this particular instance, you'll have to do some automation and maybe some play adjustment.

If you're lead is wicked sick, and your chords are just being chordy, yet you want the chords to be the focus; you might want to consider how the lead is being used in terms of the chords. So maybe make it less wicked sick on that part, but eventually you transition into the wicked sick part. But that transition is a bump down in chords and a bump up in lead. And opposite when it's before the transition.

TL;DR: you're gonna have to make some sacrifices if you want to make things shine. Understanding your synth's frequency range helps with how much you should have of what in your mix. Things project easier than others ie lows= more volume highs =less volume, comparatively.

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Mixing/Mastering / Re: Layering Kicks - Tips
« on: April 12, 2016, 11:41:57 pm »
I separate the layers in at least three different frequency ranges.

I have an 808 for the sub bass with a low pass, an acoustic drum sample that's typically a meld between the bottom end and the top end;because it adds to the bottom and to the top, and then i hi pass a physical drum model (reasons kong drum designer) and make sure i can get the click to sit right by itself.

I typically route all of those different layers into different layers with the corresponding EQ settings for each. I also do a mix of the different layers according to taste.


I then record those sample going off and make it into one file. Then i add a transient shaper and boost the attack a bit and adjust the decay.


A note worth mentioning here, I adjust the attack and decay settings so that my 808 is the first layer to actually develop. Reason behind that is because, bass takes longer to develop than the other layers.

The middle layer has slightly more attack and less decay than the  bottom layer.

The physical model layer, i cannot adjust the attack, so i leave it be. And good thing too, because i want it for the beater sound (aka your click), more so than a drum sound. And don't forget to pitch your drums before you record. It's best to have them oscillating well together.

But when you combine it, it should be pretty awesome. And when you get a solid recording, you can adjust the entire pitch to fit the song and adjust the attack with a transient shaper.

But, at first you want to just focus on the drum sounds rather than treating it to the song at first. Later you can go back and adjust stuff.

This technique also works for snares as i take a similar approach, but with slightly different settings due to the frequency differences (i also add in a side stick as well if the song is mostly a snare bias)

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Composition/Arrangement/Theory / Re: Writing Music
« on: April 12, 2016, 07:01:57 am »
So would you say my problems is writing which leads to a bad sound? 'cause I see some people write then transfer and it sounds great but I just can't seem to do it for example I'll post the link to guy who writes and transfers to what seems to me very easy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo2Lx1beW4A

Same reason i go to my math teacher to tell me about the calculus 2 mistakes i make, and when she does it, it's super easy to follow what she's doing.

She has her PHD in Math, so of course it'd be easy for her, other wise there would be a problem if she didn't have the elegant ability to do so.

With out hearing an example i am not sure what you're dealing.

You  just may not have the entire picture in mind when dealing with the transition, or your understanding of synth sound design is not up to snuff, or you're treating each instrument equally when you should in fact understand the differences in the transition.

Another friend of mine said this to me; A guitar part won't necessarily translate well to a bass part and vice versa. Even though you can play the exact same thing, it won't have the same soul because it was designed for different instruments.

Which brings me back to my original point of understanding the relationship with sound and notes. It's an experience and knowledge thing that you may not have under your belt. This could be a workflow that may not be one you should use, consider that and adjust.

A device at times chooses the individual to use it, at times it lets itself be chosen.


Understanding the region of the keyboard and the sound range that corresponds to those notes is a must, other wise you're never going to get out of "idk wtf to do brohamalama?"


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Composition/Arrangement/Theory / Re: Writing Music
« on: April 12, 2016, 06:11:22 am »
I tried to write music with a piano sound and then transfer the music, but i always ended up writing music for a piano.


To me, the notes are just as important as the sound.

I end up writing piano music if i use a piano sound.

I think, you have to get comfortable enough with the scales to know what sounds good with the sound you've created. And synths do some pretty weird things if you've ever delved into different forms of synthesis. I've literally have gotten two different sounds if i change octaves.

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A lot of mixed answers. Guess it's unknown.

it's definitely tough to give a solid answer with out doing some pretty rigorous analysis of the current trends, trends of the past, and how it eventually developed over time. That's a lot of music to work through if you're not getting paid lol.

Personally, i feel that the electronic music is going to continue to split into two different sects. One that is less musical in nature and the second that is more musical in nature.

But then again, it kinda comes from the different schools of thought that i see throughout the different genres that are already here.

I doubt they'll merge into one solid genre, but you'll definitely see more of a boiling pot so to speak.

Overall attitudes haven't changed about certain types of music if their aim is to make you move. But it just depends on the way they go about making you move and the audience's preferences.

Idk, to me it seems you'll always have that pre-teen that wants to listen to something that is rebellious in several ways, or pre teens who just want to taste the flavor of the month around their peers. or a deeply artistic individual searching for the meaning in rebellion or the flavor.

It's definitely at a weird transition because of the rise of dubstep, in my opinion. But, it's also tough to judge because i don't have an older out look this thing.


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Composition/Arrangement/Theory / Re: I dont understand modes
« on: April 12, 2016, 02:22:22 am »

But w/e, i seek to make things easier because i see a whole bunch of snobby  rubbish in this particular subject of production, mix engineering, and music.


Okay?

asuh dude

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Mixing/Mastering / Re: Studio Time, For The First Time
« on: April 12, 2016, 02:21:34 am »
If you're doing live stuff then have your music well rehearsed. The faster you can record a clean take the faster you will get the songs done.

Extremely important

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Samples/Plugins/Software/Gear / Re: Looking for Studio Monitors.
« on: April 11, 2016, 11:21:42 pm »


Ive never had the KRKs but I hear they are more bassy. Ive never had them so Im not 100% on that.


KRK's are more top and bottom end biased, the mid range didn't have the clarity. this was on a 5 inch cone, but i bet it would translate just as well on a bigger cone, if KRK kept it's philosophy the same.

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Mixing/Mastering / Re: Studio Time, For The First Time
« on: April 11, 2016, 11:19:41 pm »
Bring a note book and take notes.

Ask him ANY QUESTION YOU CAN THINK OF.

Come prepared with a few to several questions that have been bugging you for a while, or just questions about what ever you want to know more about.

ask him about workflow, reasoning behind solutions to problems, creative reasons why the engineer would choose this over that equipment/effect/etc given context at the moment.

Get his quirks. Try to pick the brain before and after the session if that person has the time, and remember to say thank you!

PS, i'd bring the engineer's favorite beverage as well!

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Samples/Plugins/Software/Gear / Re: Looking for Studio Monitors.
« on: April 11, 2016, 04:13:26 pm »
They are my first monitors, I have done everything on my headphones so far. Unfortunately, I cannot raise my budget :( The other possible choice is JBL-LSR305, but it has sub on the back. Is it really that bad to have it that way near the wall?
Don't get too caught up in specs or what people say on forums...because usually people just say what they own is "best"..

It's good to understand the specifications and know how to calibrate your speakers to the room you're in.

But, You still have to go in and try to get the best thing for your situation though.

They are my first monitors, I have done everything on my headphones so far. Unfortunately, I cannot raise my budget :( The other possible choice is JBL-LSR305, but it has sub on the back. Is it really that bad to have it that way near the wall?

idk about the JBL, but the krk's should work fine.

Just remember to keep saving your money.

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I think retro-post-future-bass-step will be the latest trend.

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Samples/Plugins/Software/Gear / Re: Looking for Studio Monitors.
« on: April 10, 2016, 10:57:22 pm »
If this is your very first pair of speakers being used to mix, i'd say the krk's are good for that.

Other wise, if you've been doing mixing on any thing other than the krk's, i suggest you look in to the 350$ price bracket. The quality will be so much better than to just basically get a side grade to the krk's.

I didn't find KRK's to be that precise.

But, if you've got a steady income and want more tiers to your upgrade, then yea w/e lol buy them or something in that 200$ range.

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Mixing/Mastering / Re: Live Mixing vs Studio Mixing
« on: April 10, 2016, 10:53:54 pm »
From my experience in doing live sound, it's not as precise as studio stuff, but you can get pretty precise if you have the time and know the room, number of people in the room, and the changes that happen on stage.

But, i try to just do enough of the precision to where i can sit back, drink beer, and catch feedback and other problems.

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