The low end is one of the hard parts for me to work on thatll be the next thing i focus my attention on!

I'm in!

dang its pretty good if you barely started in january sorry i didnt read the full topic

Soundgoodizer!

JK just maximus/limiter/multiband/EQ but I still have a hard time so reading everyone elses comments are going to help me a ton !

As a general rule, I try to get as much as I can out of the mix with volume gain and panning levels before I get to the EQ (unless I'm using EQ for sound design).

Also, panning (or the lack of it) tells a story, just like any other aspect of the instruments, rhythms, etc. The instrument it goes on matters. And there are some awesome efforts out there with mono pads - so cool sounding!

That all being said, I think producers seem to pan way to much these days. It works a lot better if only a small handful of things are panned while the majority lives in flatland. When so many elements are panned, it loses dynamics just like if the mix is too loud/compressed.

I've used this example before, but since its a new forum experience for me, I'll post the example here - Armin van Buuren's Waiting for the Night feat. Fiora. Typically vocals are panned to the center, but in this approach, Fiora's vocals are mixed pretty wide even during the choruses. What's not expected is what Armin and gang do with the lead synth. The synth is wide-panned until you get to the chorus at :43. Then it jumps the center. The result is that the sound of the chorus actually gets larger, not smaller. Fiora's vocals seem to stick out even more (though the effect on them has changed very little).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ_tpbriGpE

I'm going to give this a shot! that track is good I tried that idea where my synth was playing mono until the drop to make room for my lead and my lead was so wide when I made it mono it sounded more out there and clear but yea thanks for the comment

Lets say my track has minimal instruments kick,clap,hi hat,piano,pluck bass can I make a song without panning and just widening the piano

I will experiment and maybe just listen to a bunch of songs probably some with minimal instruments to find my answer but if someone already did the work it'll be nice to know
I don't know if I'm worried about the wrong thing but I don't want to make a track and just pan stuff assuming I'm mixing like a pro.

I love the intro! the claps sound pretty loud or not mixed well idk but i love the chill trap feel

lovely isn't it?