Looking to make more than just a generic rolling trance bass line and I was wondering how the bass lines in these tracks are made

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4W1tos4418
1:00 minute mark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pDuStQ0QTo
1:24 minute mark

As you can hear it's more than just a basic rolling 16 note trance bass. The notes in the first one make it seem like its rising or going down all the way until the end of each bar, and the second track's bassline sounds like it's going up and down near the end of each bar. I hope I am explaining that right.

It could be as simple as just moving a few 16th notes up and down, or using an arppegiator, but I am not entirely sure.

I don't how to get the arppegiator pattern to groove like that.

Can someone please help I have been trying to make similar type of bassline for a while now. I want to make something different than just a generic uplifting trance rolling bassline.

I do not have Omnisphere, nor am I familiar with Massive. I am looking to make this in Sylenth/Spire/Serum... I am trying to get it as close as possible or at least sound decent. I have Cthulu and can use it for the arp but I have NO idea how to program it like the track in my post.

Any tips to point me in the right direction is much appreciated.

Thanks but I am mostly trying to get the pattern or groove down. The video isn't really close to what the bass is like in the Atkinson tracks.

I've had a lot of rolling baselines in my tracks

I put it on either the G or D scale

armin has a lot of in in his gaia tracks

these are on the 16th and use 2 notes
1 for the first and 2nd on the 2nd note, moving just an octave higher

you can start to get a typical bass by just putting a note before the kick

haha i dunno man, thats all i know, i dont make psy trance or uplifting stuff

maybe there is pitch bend..i dunno

i think he's got a lot of layering and ofc sidechaining no doubt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moHgBI1y-LQ
Jordan Suckley made nice tutorial.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moHgBI1y-LQ
Jordan Suckley made nice tutorial.

Thanks but I don't think this is it mate. I tried this method already with the 1 bar midi and changing up the 2nd or last bar it's just not right.

It's either changing the 16th note midi order or it's gotta be the arp where the individual notes are shifted up or down a few similar to acids but I don't even know where to begin with trying to get the pattern.

Can someone please help me out...

Honestly, the only thing that will get you anywhere near that sound is tons of practice. There's no tutorial out there that will cover trance basslines at that production skill level. The closest tutorial would be the one that Adam Ellis did recently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ25FKG_4OM

Honestly, the only thing that will get you anywhere near that sound is tons of practice. There's no tutorial out there that will cover trance basslines at that production skill level. The closest tutorial would be the one that Adam Ellis did recently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ25FKG_4OM

I completely agree, but the issue right now is I can't even get that "groove" or "roll" or midi or whatever you want to call it.

I know the mixdown of my bass will be nowhere like it but I would like to at least be able to get the groove down so I can practice on the mixing and so I can be able to see if that kind of bass line will work with my current track.

I understand to practice, but I don't even know what to practice if I can't get the midi down. There's only so much time you can shift the notes around in the piano roll / arp before you finally get annoyed and the whole session goes to waste.

Don't take this as me taking my frustration out on you, but I am just in disbelief that no one on the internet can point out the midi/arp pattern. Like where/who am I suppose to go to to get this type of advice/feedback? I'm at the point in my productions where typical tutorials websites blogs just don't help... I've watched all the main ones, the Adam Ellis bass line tutorial, Ellis's old lead tutorials that aren't even up anymore, Sean Tyas in the studio 3 parts, Markus Schulz FM Magazine, James Dymond fb and youtube videos, Max Braiman videos. I've seen it and read it all. The tutorial would either be too basic or not what I am trying to do at all. I don't say that to sound conceited, but that's just the way it is right now and I am sure other producers around my level feel the same way.

With that being said what should I do about the bassline...