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Re: Tell us your master chain!
« Reply #75 on: January 08, 2016, 03:33:25 pm »
Fabfilter EQ2 >>> whatever seems to be needed to fix anything in need of fixing >>> Tape >>> L316 (to hold the peaks for the next one in chain, so very slight) >>> Inflator (input set to .3 lees than the L316's output, to get maximum volume boost without clipping and with the curve set to 0) >>> limiter 1 (more release) >>> Limiter 2 (less release)

each one of the last 4 is actually doing just a bit of GR, makes it more transparent in my opinion. so i have them in a preset and use them as one final limiter (some tweaking is always needed)

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Re: Tell us your master chain!
« Reply #76 on: January 08, 2016, 04:49:32 pm »
pro q-2 linear phase maximum to cut out around 18-19000hz and the lows that I don't need.
glue compressor, because fuck yeah!
random ozone shit, then ending with maximizer.
sometimes I use the fab pro-L to make everything a tiny bit louder.

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You really should not highpass in linear phase mode as a standard technique, it can often cause ugly pre-ringing effects on transients (kicks) and therefore make your lowend more messed up than before the cut.

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Re: Tell us your master chain!
« Reply #77 on: January 08, 2016, 05:05:52 pm »
Channel EQ(Logic)>Fabfilter Saturn(Occasional)>Waves S1 Stereo Imager>Waves Renaissance Axx(s)>Izotope Ozone 6 Imager>Adaptive Limiter(Logic)>MultiMeter(Logic)
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Re: Tell us your master chain!
« Reply #78 on: January 08, 2016, 05:26:57 pm »
Generally my masterchain

Pro Q2 or Lin Phase EQ from Waves
The Glue
Vintage Warmer 2
Invisible Limiter or L2
Analyzer(VPS Scope or Span Plus)

but it changes for track.

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Re: Tell us your master chain!
« Reply #79 on: January 08, 2016, 09:14:40 pm »
I know what Master Chain is

but is this during the "Project itself" or "a rendered song", that you're putting the Master Chain on?

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Re: Tell us your master chain!
« Reply #80 on: January 08, 2016, 09:28:28 pm »
I never EQ the master bus, recently my master bus usually looks like this:

ozone maximizer (loudness)>oxford inflater with the clipping off (for filling in harmonics very slightly)>camel phat with everything off (to bring it back to 0)>oxford limiter (for a bit of extra loudness + slightly filling in harmonics again and limiting obviously)

I guess compression on master is becoming obselete with extreme sc and channel/bus control . My master chain is all analogue . 16 channels of neve,then A-Design Nail (valve comp) in paralelle with sidechain set at 150hz (EDIT:allowing every frequency below 150 hz to pass relatively uncompressed within my NAIL comp then squashing the rest and blend in via wet/dry to about 20%) ,then SSL G BUS,doing maybe 0,7DB of comp into Zähl EQ1 into PENDULUM PL2 limiter .Might add another DB of itb limiting with Ozone 6 .
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Re: Tell us your master chain!
« Reply #81 on: January 09, 2016, 11:53:53 pm »
So, in my time I have tried a couple of slight alterations to my mastering signal chain, but in the end I found the one below works best for me.

First - Linear Phase EQ (only doing slight boosting/cutting <1-1.5db at max)
Second - Waves SSLComp (max 2-3db GR)
Third - Ozone (modules are multi-band dynamics, multi-band exciter, stereo imager)
Fourth - Waves Linear MultiBand Compressor/Limiter (once again, hardly any gain reduction being activated)
Although sometimes I switch this to the API-2500 compressor (plugin version), which is set to about .5 of a dB GR at max
Final - Waves L2, not trying to crush it too hard

Although from reading other posts, I keep seeing the Invisible Limiter mentioned up, may have to try that out.

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Re: Tell us your master chain!
« Reply #82 on: January 10, 2016, 12:40:46 am »
I'll usually start with Pro-Q 2 highpass and lowpass to give me some headroom, the into an Ozone preset (I love the Greg Calbi presets) tweaked as necessary (usually playing with the mb compressor and maximizer). Then I like to use a dbx-160 to glue the mix together a bit, and add some of that "analogue warmth" :P. After that, I'll run my mix through a couple instances of Pro-L to bring up the loudness. Pretty straightforward, but it gets the job done!
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Re: Tell us your master chain!
« Reply #83 on: January 10, 2016, 12:51:36 am »
I'll usually start with Pro-Q 2 highpass and lowpass to give me some headroom, the into an Ozone preset (I love the Greg Calbi presets) tweaked as necessary (usually playing with the mb compressor and maximizer). Then I like to use a dbx-160 to glue the mix together a bit, and add some of that "analogue warmth" :P. After that, I'll run my mix through a couple instances of Pro-L to bring up the loudness. Pretty straightforward, but it gets the job done!

hm maybe i should start using dbx-160 ? but isn't it a bit too much though ? i wonder how it'll sounds like

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Re: Tell us your master chain!
« Reply #84 on: January 10, 2016, 01:54:56 am »
Generally my master chain is
"Xfer OTT > Molot03 > TDR Kotelnikov > TDR Feedback Compressor II > TDR VOS Slick EQ > Limiter No.6"
or
"insert here > Molot03 > TDR Kotelnikov > TDR Feedback Compressor II > TDR VOS Slick EQ > insert here > Limiter No.6"

In the first insert here I use Ableton's OTT in place of Xfer's OTT, in the second insert here I put a stereo imager or distance manipulator.

The limiter is essential to the chain if you're going to have multiple compressors on the master bus else it'll clip.



« Last Edit: January 10, 2016, 02:11:41 am by caduceusmusic »

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Re: Tell us your master chain!
« Reply #85 on: January 15, 2016, 06:39:15 pm »
On my Mastering chain, I usually like to start out with Izotope. I may or may not use their initial EQ, but I always use their multiband compressor, imager, and bits of their harmonic exciter. For my brick wall, I like to use fabfilter's pro-L. Expanding the "advanced" window gives you some really nitpicky parameters that help minimize transient loss while making your track sound really damn loud (if you're into that kind of thing).
On the multiband compressor, I mainly utilize the first (lowest) and third (second to highest) bands. On the the low one, a moderate ratio around 2:1 helps to smooth out the relationship between my kick/sub while not completely crushing it. On the third band, I like to use a pretty harsh ratio, something to the tune of 4:1. This really helps get the crisp, in your face sound and will do wonders for your snare. For the other bands, I use moderate compression as I see fit.
The main use of the imager is to take anything thats under around 200Hz and put it in mono. As long as you're good about keeping a clean low end, you shouldn't have much stereo activity down their anyway, but it's still good to do, especially if you're like me and enjoy using subs that have wide overtones.
The Harmonic exciter is definitely something to be careful with. I recommend getting familiar using an exciter like the aphex vintage exciter (waves) on an individual track basis to get a better idea of how excitement like that affects the sound before you throw it on your master track. It should add a little more brightness to the track, just be careful not to go overboard with it.
With the final limiter, I like to boost the track to where the Pro-L is putting some reasonably harsh gain reduction on it, then adjust the attack until I hear some of the transients come back through. This usually happens somewhere between 5s and 6s. The release I try to set so that I minimize the amount of pumping I hear, usually around 6s but this varies a lot track to track. The visualizer can be pretty helpful in helping you find that sweet spot. The lookahead and channel link controls are useful but not nearly as important as setting your attack and release!
Lastly, ill take fabfilter's Pro-Q and sweep the frequency range with it. This EQ is nice because you can solo each band, making it a lot easier to find problem areas, especially because at this point in the chain the track is quite loud, and boosting and sweeping just isn't quite as accurate. I'll make some moderate adjustments with this EQ, then the track is ready to be exported!
There are a bunch of different ways to go about reducing a tracks dynamics and no two people will do it exactly the same. While this method works for me, please note that I am self taught and always looking to learn new ways to go about reaching my desired sound. Any advice/ critique is greatly appreciated!

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Re: Tell us your master chain!
« Reply #86 on: January 15, 2016, 10:28:00 pm »
My mastering chain is...



Plus NI Vari-Comp and FabFilter Pro-L at the very end on the digital side.

The BAX is run in stereo and the MEA-2 is run in mid/side. The MPAII is also in mid/side as a gentle saturation/limiter for the main peaks while leaving the sides relatively untouched.
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Re: Tell us your master chain!
« Reply #87 on: January 16, 2016, 03:30:36 pm »
Software: changes all the time - but usually involves a flux epure 3, uad shadow hills and massive passive - limiters: tough one: I always thought invisible limiter was by far the best, until I used it on a big outboard mastering session on big atc scm 150's and heard how it "digitalised" the sound.
Also since I have my lipinski l70's speakers I really heard how f*cked up software limiters can sound.

Ever since then I prefer outside analogue mastering by my friend Marcel James - usually involving a sontec 432 eq, summit audio, bae audio and Api 2500 (hardware) comps fed into a (hardware) waves l2 and antelope audio pure 2 for a/d clipping - tons of headroom and loudness and still sounds real.

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Re: Tell us your master chain!
« Reply #88 on: January 17, 2016, 03:57:41 am »
Parametric EQ (software/hardware of choice) followed by Multiband Comp followed by a limiter at the end. I may add other things between the comp and the limiter (warmers, vocal processers etc...) if needed

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Re: Tell us your master chain!
« Reply #89 on: January 18, 2016, 06:17:37 pm »
Soundgoodizer!

JK just maximus/limiter/multiband/EQ but I still have a hard time so reading everyone elses comments are going to help me a ton !