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Progressive trance (wip)
« on: January 11, 2016, 04:03:21 pm »
here is something i started earlier today, is it a strong enough idea? feel free to rip the shit out of it i am thankful for constructive feedback, thanks!

https://soundcloud.com/takna/wip2
« Last Edit: January 14, 2016, 08:21:15 pm by alex »

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Re: ditch or carry on working on it? (progressive trance)
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2016, 04:54:38 pm »
Definitely keep working on it. I really enjoy what I'm hearing. Reminds me of Orjan Nilsen, Andy Moor, or something that I would hear on Armada. Really digging the arrangement and flow of this track as well as that crunchy bass that hits after the intro. I feel like the break that comes after that section is also extremely well placed.

Unfortunately you are at a level beyond myself so I can't offer any obvious feedback. I would add a bit more variety in the chord progression during the break and use a bit more than 4 chords but that's completely down to personal taste. Also at 2:40 something about the chord synths in the mix sounds a bit off. I can't pinpoint exactly what it is but when transitioning from the previous section it's almost like the stereo image seems to disappear. I don't know whether that's because the synths are to lowly balanced in the mix or whether it's a stereo width problem. It might not have anything to do with the chord synths but it definitely feels like the stereo image suddenly disappears. My ears aren't trained well enough to pinpoint exactly what it is. Also in the section after the intro I would temporarily add some quarter note ride cymbals in the final 4 bars to give it a bit more flow and then remove them. The best way I can describe what I just heard is in armin van buurens "save my night" at 0:37. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xarUfnzIcmo

Finally in some sections I feel like the highs are a bit to harsh. If you listen to 2:40 in headphones at a mid to high volume you hear a consistent "hisssssssss" which may or may not have been what you were after but is fatiguing on my ears. This section as well as the section after the intro seems to be be harsh in the highs. Maybe try adding a bit more of a low pass filter on some of the instruments in the mix to tame the highs a bit more.

That's all I can really say right now. Once again most of these things are a matter of taste. Hope this helps and I would love to hear the finished version!
« Last Edit: January 11, 2016, 04:57:02 pm by Lydian »
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Re: ditch or carry on working on it? (progressive trance)
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2016, 05:32:43 pm »
Thanks for the in depth feedback man much appreciated! yeh i agree with all the points you have made will get back onto it now to try and fix those issues! a lot of white noise and ride cymbals in the main drop sounds a bit muddy to me and fatiguing like you said with try and tame them down a bit

Good to have another set of ears listen and give honest feedback!

Thanks again dude!

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Re: ditch or carry on working on it? (progressive trance)
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2016, 06:21:24 pm »
worked on the main drop a little

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Re: ditch or carry on working on it? (progressive trance)
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2016, 07:28:29 pm »
Oh man, this sounds fucking awesome. It's your track so ultimately your choice as to how you want it to sound, but I'd maybe wait with the lead for 8-16 bars in the "drop", maybe tease it a bit and then bring it in. Your chords sound really good and I feel like they could maybe be given the spotlight for a bit.

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Re: ditch or carry on working on it? (progressive trance)
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2016, 06:30:17 am »
Thanks man will try that

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Re: ditch or carry on working on it? (progressive trance)
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2016, 06:48:10 am »
Im really digging the extra fills you added into the drop Alex. Really curious about your arrangement process if you'd be willing to open up about it.
« Last Edit: January 12, 2016, 10:22:38 am by Lydian »
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Re: ditch or carry on working on it? (progressive trance)
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2016, 10:24:04 am »
Arrangement is something i struggle with always start with a breakdown then main drop if i start with just the bass and loops i can never get anywhere with it, my projects are really messy need to learn to name each track and colour sections haha usually i make 140bpm trance but hit a brick wall with that style, thanks

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Re: ditch or carry on working on it? (progressive trance)
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2016, 06:30:34 pm »
Arrangement is something i struggle with always start with a breakdown then main drop if i start with just the bass and loops i can never get anywhere with it, my projects are really messy need to learn to name each track and colour sections haha usually i make 140bpm trance but hit a brick wall with that style, thanks

I love that 140, full on type of trance. You got any on your soundcloud? I'd love to give it a listen.

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Re: ditch or carry on working on it? (progressive trance)
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2016, 01:24:55 am »
Man, those are some awesome tracks. Why'd you stop, just getting bored of the style?

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Re: ditch or carry on working on it? (progressive trance)
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2016, 06:52:53 am »
Thanks dude! Yeh i still love that style i just find it hard to have fun making it now, most of the 140 stuff sounds the same to me its hard to be creative with it i think, thanks again

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Re: ditch or carry on working on it? (progressive trance)
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2016, 10:02:37 am »
really like this mate..

1. Mix needs some attention, especially in the higher frequencies.
2. The lead in the main drop could start after 8 or 16 bars or so, leave the chords playing on its own. That way you it wont sound repetitive.

over all great work, looking forward to hearing more.

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Re: ditch or carry on working on it? (progressive trance)
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2016, 01:44:58 pm »
I was happy with your track until the main drop. Sounds a bit too much or too moody. Too much elements or lack of mixing.
Otherwise, I love it.

P.s. Had a listen to your actual soundcloud, those 140 bpm tracks are cool, follow from me.

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Re: ditch or carry on working on it? (progressive trance)
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2016, 04:55:29 pm »
Definitely keep on working on it. Its got a super nice feeling in the middle there. I like the euphoric sounding pads and atmosphere. The beginning seems a little out of place to me but that's just my opinion it still sounds good it just doesn't fit with the rest in my personal opinion. Either way you should definitely continue working on this song. I look forward to seeing a final product.
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Re: ditch or carry on working on it? (progressive trance)
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2016, 07:50:31 pm »
Thanks for the feedback guys i agree with what you all say! will work on finishing it now, cheerz!