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Good morning, everyone! It is time for Week 2 of the TPF Weekly Beat Cypher. Just post in the thread below that you're joining the Cypher and download the samples, follow the simple rules posted below, and spend the next 7 days working on a 1 minute beat. Private message me with a download link to your beat by Saturday, June 12th at midnight Pacific Time (UTC -8:00), and come check out the thread Sunday morning around this time for the results and next week's Beat Cypher!

THE BORING PART - THE RULES (there's only two)
  • You must use both samples provided, and you must compose in the BPM provided. One sample will be a transition sound you place at the start and end of your track, and the other is the featured sample for your beat.
  • You have to both post in this thread that you are joining AND private message me with your track in 32 or 24 bit, 44.1 kHz WAV or AIFF files before 11:59 PM PST on Saturday for your submission to count.

If you're unsure of how the beat cypher works, here's an article describing it, a video that touches on it, and lastly here are all the Team Supreme cyphers, so you can hear how they did it:


Here’s last week’s cypher:
Now, onto the fun part: This Week's Challenge!

Our first sample is from the cartoon series Futurama - Professor Farnsworth saying "Good news, everyone!"

Our transitional sample is this layered tonal sweep I designed - Place this at the start and end of your 1 minute beat so I can blend them all together at the end!

Our tempo is 160 Beats Per Minute, so you need to write about 40 bars of music to complete this week's challenge.

Challenge starts now, so get to beatmaking!

REGISTERED CYPHERS:
  • Mussar - SUBMITTED
  • FarleyCZ - SUBMITTED
  • tom - SUBMITTED
  • Lydian - SUBMITTED
  • Wontolla - SUBMITTED
  • eidolon - SUBMITTED
  • Marrow Machines - SUBMITTED
  • myda - SUBMITTED
  • Arktopolis - SUBMITTED
  • Mike_Conn - SUBMITTED
  • ScottCampbell
  • jme

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Here's the cypher! Thanks to everyone who participated! Lots of great submissions. This thread will be open for 48 hours so everyone can have a chance to take a listen and comment, compliment, or (constructively!!!) critique your work or someone else's, or otherwise just talk about how it went for you and what you learned/what you'll do differently next time/etc. Don't forget to post in the NEW thread if you want to join the next cypher, and please - submit your final tracks in a lossless format - AIFF or WAV, ideally 32-bit or 24-bit and rendered at 44.1 kHz.


In Order:

Mike Conn
Mussar
AnnieTP
myda
tom
eidolon
Lydian

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We're coming in on the final moments of the inaugural cypher! Just under 5 and 3/4 hours until the deadline. There's only two submissions outstanding, so once those are turned in I'll get the mixtape laid out and post it in the morning, along with next week's challenge!

EDIT: BEAT CYPHER IS CLOSED!

Thread will be locked until the mixtape is posted.

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I think you can go to school and devote yourself to music. In the most extreme example, you can go to school for a degree in music or enroll in a music school like Icon. You can also minor in music while majoring in something else that you're passionate about. You can find a stable but fulfilling career path, and spend your spare time working on music. If you're young, I encourage that you consider something like this. I had no idea what I wanted to do with my life when I graduated high school. I'm only just now discovering it, and I'm in my mid twenties.

What you want to do for the rest of your life might change, and odds are that it'll will - and it will change more than once. The hard part is making sure that no matter what, you're going towards things that inspire you and make you feel worthwhile. Besides, it's not like you have to JUST do one thing with your life. Having just one label people can slap on you is convenient but boring. Be multifaceted instead.

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Mixing/Mastering / Re: Record label question!!!! please help
« on: June 11, 2016, 10:24:42 pm »
It seems like it's out of context, but labels can and will charge you "digital packaging fees" if they can get away with it. Do I think small, independent EDM labels will do that? Most likely not. Do I think it's better to be safe than sorry? Most certainly.

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Mixing/Mastering / Re: Levels
« on: June 11, 2016, 04:14:05 pm »
I'm not making assumptions, because EQ can go before that stuff and it can go after that stuff. As far as "having a master chain on while mixing" is concerned, that's just an assumption on your part. Assuming that people will have their music mastered at all is what I'm doing. If you don't want your song to have to go through a bunch of remasters or get put out sounding not like you anticipated, I think that's probably not a horribly assumption to make.

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Mixing/Mastering / Re: Levels
« on: June 11, 2016, 03:31:19 pm »
What exactly am I assuming? That people will post process vocals? I don't think that's an assumption; can you point to a completely unprocessed vocal track that was on a released track? It might not be the exact chain I listed, but if you think I'm saying that every vocal should have these exact plugins then you're the one making assumptions, not me.

And you're telling me that if I add something like 4 dB of gain to the 2k-3k range, it won't have any affect on the character of the sound if I just turn down the EQ afterwards? Have you actually tried this yourself to see what happens?

Lastly, where do you think the extra volume comes from when you're boosting a frequency band? Yes, it's based on the original signal but it's additive EQing. You're adding extra harmonic information that was not present in the dry, unprocessed signal.

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Mixing/Mastering / Re: Levels
« on: June 11, 2016, 02:32:12 pm »
Your volume level is actually the single most important aspect of your entire mixdown. Before equalization, before compression, before stereo imaging and harmonic excitement and multiband processing and all that crazy hoodoo voodoo stuff people slap on their chain to make it sound "professional", your mixdown relies upon the level of the different signals.

The reason people rarely mess with volume faders after setting them is because volume determines depth - the louder a signal, the closer it is perceived. the quieter a signal, the further away or "down in the mix" it is perceived. So in the traditional mixing mindset, you want to achieve the best sound possible with the volume faders alone before even touching the pan pots or any post processing. From there you can pan the sounds to give each signal more space in the stereo field, then start post processing with EQ and compression and whatnot only as is needed by the sound and within the context of the track.

EQ and compression can change the overall amount of level of the tracks they're placed on, but that is why they have output gain controls - to trim or boost as necessary to return you to the volume of the signal before it was processed. So if you're doing some surgical EQ and cutting out like 2.5-3 dB of information, instead of boosting the whole track that much you can just add a couple of dB of makeup gain within the EQ.

I don't get the logic. What difference does it make whether you're increasing or reducing volume?

Think about it. I have this vocal I wanna post process. I'm gonna be compressing it, putting saturation on it, sending it through a reverb, and in the end it's all gonna get squashed through my mastering chain. If I start adding frequencies that were not originally present, what do you think might happen when it starts going through all these effects?


Of course, there are no hard and fast rules - if it sounds better to boost instead of cut, do it! As long as you are aware of what is happening and want that to happen, there's no problem.

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Alrighty, today's the last day for submissions! There are one or two people still working on their songs, so if anyone wants to make last minute changes to their track they still have time. At 11:59 PM, PST I'll consider the submissions closed and I'll set to work arranging the mixtape. Really enjoying the variety of styles that have come in so far! I have tomorrows samples and BPM set up, so keep your eye out for the new thread, as this one will get locked after I post the mix in the morning.

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shitposting bots?

what's next, memes?

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Jersey and Baltimore Club are usually in the 130-138 range, and they have nice grooves.

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If you're not happy with it, go spend another day working on it! There's no need to finish early if you don't have to. If you're not happy with the samples I choose, you're more than welcome to go find the samples you want us to use on Sunday.

And if you read the OP, the instructions are clear:

private message me with your track before 11:59 PM PST on Saturday for your submission to count.

We don't want to spoil it for the other people - I'm gonna post them all on Sunday morning, so please remove the link and private message it to me.

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Mixing/Mastering / Re: Record label question!!!! please help
« on: June 10, 2016, 01:39:26 pm »
I never said reimbursement - I said debt. Thre are plenty of articles about this, as well as documentaries.

If you assume a record label is NOT trying to take advantage of you at every opportunity, you're doomed to repeat the same mistakes other artists have made.

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then why the heck did you comment?

you just did the equivalent of walking into a discussion about the best way to throw a football and going "i hate football."

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Samples/Plugins/Software/Gear / Re: Stolen Vocal Chops
« on: June 09, 2016, 11:50:50 pm »
Yeah, that's pretty fishy - not sure if explicitly illegal though, like you said.

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