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Thanks Babasmas by the reply, so the point of ''I don't know enough about the genre/sound design)'' makes sense, but not in a ignorant/novice way you know?
Sound design isn't my weak in general but the fact of I can't follow some straight direction, makes that I don't go further, in depth in some genre and eventually I don't master certain sonorities,
but almost all the genres that I listen I can replicate, the characteristics, metric, timbres, mainly after I start to DJing.
You usually produces what kind of music? what is your state of mind when you decide to start some project? maybe I should pause a bit as you said but I can't see me breaking in this moment, I get very anxious to take some hours to produce daily, It's complex haha.

You're over thinking a little to much man, especially if you're getting anxious before you produce. No need to force this, because it's going to take some time.

typically i have no idea what it is i want to do with a project, but i always start by making drums.

It also took me a solid 5 years to actually figure out wtf i was wanting to do? i eventually found my groove when i slowed down my music so that i could play the key board to it the bpm that is typical is actually double the speed i make my songs in. The feeling and the clarity is just there for me.

I also would have trouble piecing my songs together, even though i had good individual ideas.

you might have to analyze yourself a little more, and be introspective to actually get you to perform the art you want to do. gather information from any where and every where, and start analyzing and applying to see what works for you. over time, you'll get it easier and easier. but the problems become a little more complex at that point.

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took 2 years of music theory in high school.

continuously sought ways to improve my knowledge and application. studied it in my free time. talked about it to people who were actually studying music as a career and in school (college and above).

the great part about having it as a hobby is you can draw on many resources with out actually having to be called out to do it when you don't want.

Talk to enough people, get lessons, do your own research and you will eventually understand how to communicate to a musician or articulate your ideas a little better.

there's plenty of information out on the internet, but talking to people helps internalize it. Mostly because you have that associated memory of who you speak to.

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Mixing/Mastering / Re: Mixing With a Lot of Reverb and Delay
« on: January 09, 2016, 10:37:18 pm »
did any one mention insert effects yet?

that's where i often find myself getting the BEST results when using reverb or really any other effect.

Look into the different between pre and post fader settings, because it's pretty awesome.

on top of that, if you're treating that insert layer like any other instrumental element, you should be good to go.(eqing and panning. the amount of send dictates the volume, as well as the pre and post fader options)

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Mixing/Mastering / Re: Panning Different intances L & R
« on: January 09, 2016, 10:34:00 pm »
You can still layer by just panning the one instance though. You can still build a strong wall..

You might have balance issues then, and if you do have a time difference it would make that panned component stick out more (depending where you want the emphasis).

But i am not sure as to what you mean by "panning the one instance". do you mean taking both sounds and panning them opposite?(which you might need a time and or volume difference) or stacking those on top of each other and then panning them the same direction?

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Finished Tracks / Re: Madre - What genre is this?
« on: January 09, 2016, 10:26:34 pm »
I think this would qualify as techno.

The song could be shorter. it kinda drags.

you need a better drum mix, turn down your synths and turn up your drums.

that "DOOH" sound on the upbeat, is rather harsh. and overall the song is way to loud and a little unpleasant to listen to, even at low volumes.

I like that little acid sounding synth at the middle break.

Structurally i think you can use some variation, because it's basically the same thing over again. Also consider silence in creating suspense, it's just a run on sentence if we were to use writing terminology here. (i had to get use to that as well,but it definitely helped break apart sections better)

*edit* it's pretty modular though, but i think some silence would help you out


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Finished Tracks / Re: ONDO - Lost in the forest( IDM )
« on: January 09, 2016, 10:19:31 pm »
sounds pretty ok. I think the drum mixing and drum sample choice (or creation) needs some work.

i know it's idm, but i barely heard the drums at the level i use to judge a mix (before i turn it up).

If you prioritize the drums in terms of level balance, and then the instrumentation, you can get them to poke through a little better.

but if you start with the drum prioritization first, and then work your way through the rest of the song, you'll have a solid foundation to keep the people into it.

right now you gave the drums a back seat and still expect them to drive with repetitive music accompaniment.

and you don't have to make them big banger drums, but the mix is just not suited to best convey the emotions.

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Finished Tracks / Re: New beautiful song before Mastering
« on: January 09, 2016, 10:03:05 pm »
http://www2.zippyshare.com/v/0fj5iM0G/file.html

Please leave your opinions  ;)
I can definitely see where you're going with it. I would try to make the kick a bit more predominant throughout the mix. I assume you were aiming more for a deep house kind of thing so the kick isn't so intense like in trance or electro but I think it could use a bit more mids/highs to stand out. Just my subjective opinion  ;D

Idk man, i think if you made the kick more prominent, it would ruin the sort of indie vibe it's given out.

What i think you could do is maybe layer the kick and snare a little better.

i think that there's maybe to much of a high cut on the kick and to much of a low cut on the snare.

You should blend them together a little bit so you get the sound and feeling of them playing at the same time but still hearing both characteristics when played individually.

that bass line can come up too i think.

little more sub in the bass and less from the kick. (to make it sit with the added sub in the bass line)

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Mixing/Mastering / Re: Panning Different intances L & R
« on: January 09, 2016, 09:40:09 pm »
Doesn't seem wrong to do what you're asking. If any thing, a difference in "type of sound" doing the same thing might give you a better result. It might not thicken the sound, but perhaps add emphasis on the music component you're trying to do.

I do think that if you were to keep them on the same direction, and then process an effect on the opposite side (reverb, distortion, delay (maybe an eq to make it different)), then you could get a thicker sound from that one (of two) sound ideas. depending on how you want to layer it.

layer with more bricks and have a thicker wall, or have many thin walls?

774
R&A Graveyard / Re: Notifications
« on: January 08, 2016, 07:01:32 pm »
agreed, good idea.

775
Thanks, definitely something to look into on my next drum takes.

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Mixing/Mastering / Re: Mixing without monitors
« on: January 08, 2016, 06:47:10 pm »
You gotta use both perspectives, but mostly rely on the monitors.

I pop my headphones on just to get a different perspective and to look at some tiny details. i'd consider it to be a microscope.

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I think it's important to practice at some interval and approach it with tenacity and dedication. But if all you're doing is music, that kind of makes for a boring person with out much versatility.

life should be about music, but your life shouldn't be music.

It's one sided and short and eventually leads to frustration if you don't know when to ease off the accelerator. Some times you may need to even do an activity that's completely different than music in order to get your mojo back.

Not to mention, doing things other than  music brings about a completely fresh perspective than if you were tunneled into one a narrow field of view.

You gotta draw inspiration from any where and any thing. Gotta learn yourself before you gain confidence.

Which will help to make music every day and/or when you're inspired.

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Composition/Arrangement/Theory / Re: Electronic music and Math
« on: January 08, 2016, 06:55:26 am »
math is the alphabet, physics is the sentences.

That's really what it boils down to.

your level of understanding dictates how far you're willing to go in using all of what you have available to make sense of the world around you and the things you do. nut once you start talking about math and physics, that's literally the cusps of human behavior.

But you really don't need that much of an understanding to do things that you want to do. there's no need to over complicate.

"you can reach enlightenment at the end of a wine bowl."

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Mixing/Mastering / Re: EQ TIPS
« on: January 08, 2016, 06:49:20 am »
Before i do any sort of "mixing" eq, i tend to do some preliminary subtractive eq first tool in my chain. Some times i'll eq a send effect both first in the chain and last in the chain to initially shape the effect in the region i want, and then i'll accent a portion of the sound to give it a different feeling (or vibe).

But i always do subtractive eq first then move on to the mixing perspective.

I use reason so the way the channels are set up, it might be a little different than if you were to use ableton or other daws given the signal flow. But if you understand those concepts, the technique i've discussed can be manipulated in a way that is suitable for any style.

It highlights a respect of frequency, which can be further enhanced by stereo image control (more stereo or more mono). But depending on your daw, you might have to do some research as to what makes your daw tick.

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Samples/Plugins/Software/Gear / Re: What is your DAW template?
« on: January 08, 2016, 06:42:49 am »



I'll start. Mine's heavily based off The Pegboard Nerds template. My goal was to automate as much of the mixing process as I could to the Ableton template so that I could spend more time composing melodies etc.

Everything except keys is sent into the pre master bus. If you want more detail on the busses i'm happy to explain/show plugins etc. In general all busses have eq, transient shaping (reduction except the drum buss) and very soft compression + M/S eqing.

Feel free to post yours.

edit: that image did NOT come out good.
https://i.imgur.com/5ADfNjI.png
pretty much a good way to set things up. I don't know if you're using groups or not. My template is pretty much the exact same concept except i group the individual channels.

I will say, sub bass is not optional....it's  mandatory lol. It's neat you put up a reference track, never use those things -_-

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