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Mixing/Mastering / Re: Mixes like professionals
« on: March 12, 2016, 09:09:41 pm »
Quote from: RLL on March 12, 2016, 09:00:58 pm
For layering stuff theres pretty more you can do apart of using EQ, try linking al the layers to different mixer tracks and applying different EQ's but kepping one of the synths as the main one (making a little boost in the high mids section while applying a sublte cut in that section on the other synths), then you can link all the track to a bus and apply some multiband compression (Maximus it's great for this if you are using FL) and some reverb/delay (or both). That should make al the synths mix together making them sound like only one. You can also eliminate all the Reverb and Delay on the synths and only use the one in the final bus to make them feel like they are only one synth.
(Sry for my bad english) Good luck with your productions man!

But should you be using all that fancy stuff?

This could be good advice if you have a good understanding of EQ and DYNAMICS, but there's no point in suggesting this with these tools if you can't grasp the simple nature of the former.

I agree with you about the effect bussing, but the signal that's processed before hand should be considered first before you add any effects.

Not to mention you're not actually doing any thing to shape frequencies with a multi band compression tool, that's a job for EQ.

I wouldn't suggest eqing the group, keep things separate and easy to work with. There's enough convoluted processed that only make sense to the person using them and not to any one else.

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Inspiration/Creativity/Motivation / Re: do you confidently finish at least one song every week ?
« on: March 12, 2016, 09:00:06 pm »
Quote from: FarleyCZ on March 11, 2016, 10:24:16 pm
I don't finish a track in a week. Not even close. But I seriously doubt paid connection with other similarly troublesome guys would help me. For three reasons:

1) You have forum like this, where all you described either already happens, or can happen quite easily for free.

2) There's much larger percentage of people that need help over people that can actually provide some help. That's why WIP sections tend to be kinda quiet. I don't think your paid community would be an exception.

3) I don't know how much you plan to charge for this, but I think that good course, or new VST, or ticket to a good show, or anything else that gets you inspired is kinda better investment.

Feel free to prove me wrong. For now sorry, but no.

...also, as this forum was launched with goal of producers helping each other, posting here such offering is kind of rude. People who made this forum invested a lot of time to it for free. If I was a mod, I'd have hard time deciding if this topic should stay here.

I thought this was a cry for help, not a advertisement.

If i were mod i'd get rid of it.

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Mixing/Mastering / Re: My music just sounds.... off?
« on: March 12, 2016, 08:52:10 pm »
You will eventually realize you might need to be conversing with a professional sound engineer to get close to where you want to be.

Do you think that the producers that do this professionally just capped their learning and just continued to make music?

No, to get the things they want, they had to work with other people who were way better than them.

Some innate ability and observation of working conditions made them more proficient at creating, but they might not of had the technical understanding and knowledge with out having some one sit down with them and talk things through.

I'd suggest you try to find some one who is willing to do that for you.

I recently helped lydian gain a better understanding in just about less than a week for a home work assignment and 50 hours working with a song he's been trying to mix.

I can offer my services given certain parameters that you will have to work under.

PM if this interests you.

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WIPs / Re: Dubstep, drumstep, bass, whatever-step.
« on: March 11, 2016, 06:03:29 pm »
It's cool, but it's more of a loop and not really structured as a song.

I don't know if this was an idea or a song attempt

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Inspiration/Creativity/Motivation / Re: How Important Is A Sense Of Self Efficacy?
« on: March 11, 2016, 06:01:50 pm »
I've learned to have no expectations, but still remain true to core values as a human. Those go much farther, mindsets come and go with the different situation and age. It will probably lead you to a narrow view point than if you try to accept something a little more amorphous and flexible.

Music production isn't that hard, it's the creation and the underlining human elements that make it hard and quite frankly any thing regarding humans.

You have to be a student of life, and strive to become a master student.

Don't let yourself get in the way of yourself.

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Inspiration/Creativity/Motivation / Re: do you confidently finish at least one song every week ?
« on: March 11, 2016, 05:57:49 pm »
after a year of not doing any music, i confidently made two songs in a week.

Now, it took me a little longer to actually iron out some arrangement details, and i am planning on taking even longer for mixing and mastering.

But that's only because i have several tunes that are ready to go and i've set my release date for the year.


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Composition/Arrangement/Theory / Re: Exercises?
« on: March 11, 2016, 05:55:07 pm »
I like to start my drop with a solid bench press warm up...oh wait....exercises...


You can really do just about any thing to create a build up. and depending on your musical context, you could do many effects of your choosing just to get a cool sound.

I would suggest you bounce some audio to a stem and then manipulate the wave form while doing effect automation.

basically you're creating a sound transition, so make sound effects that aren't necessarily musical in nature.

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Mixing/Mastering / Re: Mixes like professionals
« on: March 11, 2016, 05:52:34 pm »
You gotta learn how to make one synthesizer sound good.

there's no point in adding stuff on top of stuff if you're not satisfied with one sound. You're just building disappointment.

We also need to define what layers actually are. Are they element layers? individual parts summed to make up one element of a track? or are layers in respect to the channels of the track.

We can't fix things if we aren't specific in our understanding, knowledge, and communication.

But i will say, the more things you do have, the harder it is to conceptualize a good cohesive mix.

And honestly, it's more about the mix than the master.

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Mixing/Mastering / Re: SENDS/BUSSES
« on: March 11, 2016, 05:08:11 am »
PEOPLE WHO WANT THINGS GIVEN AND NOT EARNED LEL

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Mixing/Mastering / Re: Layering a snare over a kick. Mix help
« on: March 07, 2016, 02:46:50 am »
Quote from: RylanT on March 06, 2016, 10:51:08 pm
You guys reckon changing the attack time on a snare might help to make it less clicky?

yea, i suggested that for layering samples on top of each other.

I'd even suggest a little bit of attack time on almost any thing you can think of that would have any form of transient.

Controlling the transients makes it easier to not have a build up, and since they would start at different times, you'd get a little bit of clarity as well.

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Mixing/Mastering / Re: Dealing With Dynamics Between Song Sections
« on: March 06, 2016, 04:59:16 am »
volume automation, not compression.

may require weird groupings to retain and change the ratios.

Group sent to group. keep in mind that you're summing and subtracting the signal prior to the last group.

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Mixing/Mastering / Re: Parallel Compression and Phase Issues
« on: March 06, 2016, 04:57:33 am »
yea you can make things really thick, but it's easy to over do it.

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Inspiration/Creativity/Motivation / Re: Country/folk progressive house.
« on: March 04, 2016, 05:56:02 am »
Quote from: Arktopolis on March 04, 2016, 05:32:31 am
I thought this discussion was exactly about Avicii and his style.

Quote from: Marrow Machines on March 04, 2016, 12:08:15 am
Once again, my first post was about the potential of abuse when it comes people's heritage. This about traditional folk music and the fusion of a modern context. Not popular music, you people can't seem to discern the difference between the two.

Yet you still refuse to give an actual definition of what "abuse" is in this context.

The definition is clearly there if you use a dictionary and put context to the situation.

I'll spell out the bigger picture since you can't seem to grasp it.

The entire concept of modern pop has move to the way of the money rather than to genuine nature of music. You should know that by now and probably have experience it in your own way.

That's my ultimate gripe about any thing modern. I am not necessarily opposed to the modern sound, i am just more critical of the song content since i know that it'll have that "pristine" sound.

As i've stated before, i have no qualms of such music being made, but a certain amount of respect should be considered before attempting to utilize it.

It's an exploitative process for each artist to walk on their own path and reap the the harvest that is created.

quite honestly, my initial post was taken WAY out of context to begin with.

Probably should of been taken to personal message instead of derail a whole thread eh buddy boys?

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Mixing/Mastering / Re: How do I make the kick more distinct and full of room???
« on: March 04, 2016, 05:08:48 am »
Quote from: Aris Opus on March 04, 2016, 05:06:22 am
There is something I have discovered recently, or really; learned over time. This might not make much sense as it's hard to put in words and more of a habit than a trick: you don't necessarily need to mix the kick in. The more you do this music thing, the more your mind will begin to pick out sounds and leave less to eqing allowing for synths to be bare in certain frequencies knowing that other sounds will eventually fill them as you work towards the whole. A lot of it can ultimately come down to the composition of a song and choice additions to follow suit. Sorry this is ambiguous but a good kick is a good kick. It will stand out when the sounds are right. Maybe at most double the kick track you have and adjust volume levels if it isn't loud enough, but it isn't (always) as complicated as it might seem at first.

this is a good idea, but this advice is rooted in having the drums be an important element in the mix.

I think they should be in most dance music, so what you offered is very good. I use this technique often, as well as a volume bias to the kick and snare.

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WIPs / Re: Organic chill track, WIP looking for some feedback and opinions.
« on: March 04, 2016, 12:21:23 am »
I think you should switch the second section and the third section around.

I like the slow atmosphere you provide, i also think a more dub style beat might benefit this sound well.

Maybe a few more rhythmic elements to it?

I also like the artwork for it.

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