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Sampling
« on: January 08, 2016, 07:15:23 pm »
Related to "samples"

What is going to happen if you sample another record?  I'm talking Kanye West style... building a beat/song out of vocal samples, music samples, drum samples, etc. from other songs.  What goes on behind the scenes in a situation like that? Are royalties paid? Does the sample have to get "cleared"? How does someone like Kanye (he's just the most iconic example for this) get away with it?
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Re: Sampling
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2016, 08:27:55 pm »
Copyright will happened. You'll pay taxes for this IF you sell it. If you're giving it out for free, then they'll just take it down.
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Re: Sampling
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2016, 08:57:28 pm »
you have to get permission from the original owner/label or whoever... if not then they can sue you. kanye is rich & powerful, his lawyers will save him & if they don't it's not like he can't afford to pay the owner off
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Re: Sampling
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2016, 12:21:45 am »
Quote from: JamesSweeneyy on January 08, 2016, 08:57:28 pm
you have to get permission from the original owner/label or whoever... if not then they can sue you. kanye is rich & powerful, his lawyers will save him & if they don't it's not like he can't afford to pay the owner off

I'm just curious as to how he got a start doing that, you know? Maybe things were less tense in the years when he was beginning this? I mean like when he first had the idea to do it and all
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Re: Sampling
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2016, 12:34:45 am »
he was making beats for people like jay-z etc... before that i don't think he was big enough/selling enough for anyone to care.

the problem with today is that you can post something on band camp that's popping & nobody will notice it until you get big. all of a sudden you're huge & marvin gaye's family are taking you to court over a song you made when you was 18.

as far as getting permission, you literally just need to contact whoever it is who owns the rights to the song & ask them if it's ok to use it... sometimes they'll ask for a straight up fee, sometimes you'll have to pay after X no. of copies sell, sometimes you'll have to give them X amount for every copy that sells. it will vary based on who you're dealing with, how big you are etc...

if you're not selling copies, i'm not sure they can do much to you other than make you take it down.
« Last Edit: January 09, 2016, 12:37:38 am by JamesSweeneyy »
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Re: Sampling
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2016, 12:44:58 am »


I'm just curious as to how he got a start doing that, you know? Maybe things were less tense in the years when he was beginning this? I mean like when he first had the idea to do it and all
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"Had the idea to do it and all"
It sounds like you think untrue things. All Kanye invented is next-level self aggrandizement.
In the mid/late 90s, internet 1.0, no SoundCloud, no bots searching for infringement, totally different universe entirely, but its not like the record labels smiled on infringement in the good old days.
My whole SoundCloud, which is kinda an experiment along these lines, IS "technically" copyrighted material, that I don't own. I'm doing it as an experiment, chopping and screwing with the rate enough that I am creating something new and moral(not posting Britney Spears remixes lol) but no beats or anything to muddy up the bots' recognition, so I'm really just trying to see WHAT EXACTLY crosses the line and gets me taken down. Poking at the bots to see what they care about.
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