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For new FL Studio users
« on: January 07, 2016, 04:57:54 pm »
A little workflow tip. When I started toying around with FL, I used a lot of volume automation by automating the volume slider of the mixer channel where the instrument was routed to, as I learned by watching tutorials on Youtube. This type of automation led me to a lot of problems, due to the fact I couldn't change the volume on mixer for mixing purposes, because the slider would only follow the automation settings and the init settings, so my changes would be reset everytime the automation occurred. The simplest solution for my workflow now is to individually add, when needed, a Fruity Balance on the last slot of the instrument's mixer channel and automate its volume knob. Maybe it's common knowledge, but I hope it helps anyway.
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Re: For new FL Studio users
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2016, 05:17:37 pm »
Be warned, Fruity Balance is a bridged plugin starting in FL 12, so if you're using the 64 bit version, this might take up a lot of RAM. If you want to just automate the volume slider, you can change the "Max" knob in the automation clip settings. This changes the maximum value the automation clip can make, which is the highest level the volume slider can reach, so it changes the track volume proportionately.

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Re: For new FL Studio users
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2016, 05:23:15 pm »
You don't have to add Fruity Balance, just automate the volume knob of the individual instrument / audio clip in your pattern view. That way it's separate from your mixer channel's volume settings.

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Re: For new FL Studio users
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2016, 05:29:26 pm »
You don't have to add Fruity Balance, just automate the volume knob of the individual instrument / audio clip in your pattern view. That way it's separate from your mixer channel's volume settings.

^this, you have a bunch of different ways to automate the volume without using a VST. if you want to automate multiple synths at once you can run them all inside patcher then automate the volume of one or all at the same time using the pattern view.

*put pitcher, meant patcher.
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Re: For new FL Studio users
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2016, 05:31:24 pm »
You don't have to add Fruity Balance, just automate the volume knob of the individual instrument / audio clip in your pattern view. That way it's separate from your mixer channel's volume settings.

Of course there are different approaches. However, I prefer to have almost everything on the mixer only and I choose to automate Fruity Balance because I usually couple it with Fruity Fast LP so my automations are consistent from an organization standpoint and I don't need to jump between interfaces to search my automations.

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Re: For new FL Studio users
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2016, 05:33:51 pm »
Bridging in FL really doesn't use up that much CPU compared to native 64bit plugins. It's something like ~1-2% of overhead per plugin according to the manual. I would say stability is probably a bigger determining factor. Still, it's often a much better alternative to use fruity balance while being able to active tweak mixer channels than it is to not use it for the tradeoff of using marginally less CPU.

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Re: For new FL Studio users
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2016, 05:53:12 pm »
Yep, I prefer everything in the mixer as well. If I want to automate one thing separately that happens to be controlled by a mixer channel clip along with a few others then I create one from the pattern view. Habit :-)

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Re: For new FL Studio users
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2016, 05:57:47 pm »
Here is a thread I created on another forum to discuss multiple volume controls. I'll throw it on here just as a supplement to your comments

If you want to read the original thread:
http://www.futureproducers.com/forums/production-techniques/recording-mixing-and-mastering/lets-debate-multiple-volume-controls-514810/
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"Volume. Loudness. Headroom. Peak Levels. Clipping. What is it? Gain-Structure.

More likely than not you have heard of these terms and wondered how to properly and efficiently adjust variables to give you a more "professional" mix. Well in all honestly I'm in the same boat, let's discuss.

Three ways in which you most likely control you volume levels are through using the following faders:

Channel Volume (found on the Step Sequencer)
Mixer Volume (found on the Mixer)
Synth Output-Level Control (the synth's main volume level)

Which do you most frequently use in your mix, and why?

In all honesty I have never used the Synth Output-Level Control to adjust for volume. More often than not I am using the Mixer volume fader, and on occasion when I am layering several synths in the same channel/mixer I will adjust their individual Channel volume levels.

An article on Sound on Sound (http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep13/articles/level-headed.htm) discussed gain-staging and proposed the idea that it is more effective to use the Synth Output-Level volume fader as opposed to the channel or mixer volume faders because "they won't affect the level flowing from your synth to any insert processors you add."

What are you opinions on this, or what do you do to adjust volume levels in your mixes?

Your suggestions for gain-staging and volume control?

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Re: For new FL Studio users
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2016, 06:11:12 pm »
I feel so dumb now... and I've been using FL for a while
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Re: For new FL Studio users
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2016, 07:12:37 pm »
Call me old fashioned, but I still use Fruity Mute 2 for this because IMO it's waaaaaaay cleaner than using Fruity Balance.
If you're using 12, Fruity Mute 2 probably disappeared for you which is a total shame IMO. You can still use it, you just have to find an older project file that has it in it and then flag it as a favorte AFAIK =/
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Re: For new FL Studio users
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2016, 09:08:46 pm »
You don't have to add Fruity Balance, just automate the volume knob of the individual instrument / audio clip in your pattern view. That way it's separate from your mixer channel's volume settings.

This works in theory, except that in Harmor (maybe some others, I don't know for sure). HOWEVER, the channel volume knob automates the PRE-FX volume in Harmor instead of the POST-FX. This becomes problematic when you add distortion, among other things.

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Re: For new FL Studio users
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2016, 09:09:12 pm »
Call me old fashioned, but I still use Fruity Mute 2 for this because IMO it's waaaaaaay cleaner than using Fruity Balance.
If you're using 12, Fruity Mute 2 probably disappeared for you which is a total shame IMO. You can still use it, you just have to find an older project file that has it in it and then flag it as a favorte AFAIK =/

How is it better than Fruity Balance? I've never used it.

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Re: For new FL Studio users
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2016, 09:22:52 pm »
Call me old fashioned, but I still use Fruity Mute 2 for this because IMO it's waaaaaaay cleaner than using Fruity Balance.
If you're using 12, Fruity Mute 2 probably disappeared for you which is a total shame IMO. You can still use it, you just have to find an older project file that has it in it and then flag it as a favorte AFAIK =/
Or you could go to your plugin database in the browser:
Plugin database > Installed > Effects > VST > Fruity Mute 2, then add it to your favorites