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natre

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Why do my leads sound so raw and not smooth?
« on: January 07, 2016, 04:54:13 am »
Hey guys!
Had a quick question that's causing hell to my drops... or so I think?
Here's a sample of a drop:

https://soundcloud.com/natremusic/drop/s-v5mb9

I don't like the way the leads sound. I feel like the quality isn't very good and how raw the leads sound, makes it seem like the drop sounds kinda bad.
I would appreciate any kind of pointers! Even if it doesn't have to do anything with the leads!
Thanks so much!

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Re: Why do my leads sound so raw and not smooth?
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2016, 09:38:06 am »
Hey!

I think you could be running into a problem that could be solved by layering. I'm hearing that your lead is very upfront and exposed-- it's lacking space and depth, which is what you may be referring to as raw?

What can help is to simply add some additional layers to the lead that are slightly detuned and altered in some other way. This can create a bigger sound.

Think of a single vocalist singing the lead line. May not be very intense or large sounding. But add a couple of more people singing along with them, and the small changes in pitch and timbre from person to person creates a richer tone that provides depth and intensity. That's why a choir sounds freaking epic.

Same concept. You need to "widen" the pitch of your lead. Careful though, because too much can cause balance issues with your mix. Too much detuned can cause your lead (or any other element) to sit too far back in the mix.

Reverb and or chorus can also help to give similar effects.

Hope that helps!

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Re: Why do my leads sound so raw and not smooth?
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2016, 09:57:02 am »
Are you talking about the snappy transient noise? It's pretty typical for saw-based sounds to have a harsh high end, and if your filter modulation (pluck) is exposing those frequencies, it might add harshness. Also if you are closing the filter really quickly, it will probably exacerbate any harshness.

What I've done in the past to reduce this problem is some combination of:
 (a) decrease the cutoff frequency of the filter you're modulating
 (b) increase the decay time of the filter
 (c) soften the high end with EQ (& possibly add in noise to fill the frequency space you cut out, depending on the sound you want)
 (d) dial down any distortion/compression on the sound, if there is any contributing to the issue
 (e) change the waveform in the synth

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Re: Why do my leads sound so raw and not smooth?
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2016, 09:29:50 pm »
Hey!

I think you could be running into a problem that could be solved by layering. I'm hearing that your lead is very upfront and exposed-- it's lacking space and depth, which is what you may be referring to as raw?

What can help is to simply add some additional layers to the lead that are slightly detuned and altered in some other way. This can create a bigger sound.

Think of a single vocalist singing the lead line. May not be very intense or large sounding. But add a couple of more people singing along with them, and the small changes in pitch and timbre from person to person creates a richer tone that provides depth and intensity. That's why a choir sounds freaking epic.

Same concept. You need to "widen" the pitch of your lead. Careful though, because too much can cause balance issues with your mix. Too much detuned can cause your lead (or any other element) to sit too far back in the mix.

Reverb and or chorus can also help to give similar effects.

Hope that helps!


Thanks so much!

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Re: Why do my leads sound so raw and not smooth?
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2016, 09:30:31 pm »
Are you talking about the snappy transient noise? It's pretty typical for saw-based sounds to have a harsh high end, and if your filter modulation (pluck) is exposing those frequencies, it might add harshness. Also if you are closing the filter really quickly, it will probably exacerbate any harshness.

What I've done in the past to reduce this problem is some combination of:
 (a) decrease the cutoff frequency of the filter you're modulating
 (b) increase the decay time of the filter
 (c) soften the high end with EQ (& possibly add in noise to fill the frequency space you cut out, depending on the sound you want)
 (d) dial down any distortion/compression on the sound, if there is any contributing to the issue
 (e) change the waveform in the synth

I was talking more about the way it sounds, and not the noise, but I still appreciate the tips!!! Thanks a lot.