Author Topic: How Do I Sample/Resample Like This? (Read 7531 times)

AB69 · « **on:** October 18, 2016, 01:23:46 am »

I have been having an extremely hard time learning to sample and create FX like the ones in the following tracks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoqZRw1BaCA
(0:00-1:37 and throughout the track)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qUhNcaOTiU
(0:50-1:44 and throughout the track)

My best attempt at something like this has been a track that I have been working on for over a year. The FX and samples that I used were ones that I found over the course of a year. Obviously this doesn't seem to be a very effective method, and I am wondering if there is a better approach to this?

I can spend hours in a night trying to set up a bar of FX and samples that flow from start to finish, and many times I can finish the session literally empty handed with nothing to show for it, because I either couldn't find samples/sounds that I want or it doesn't flow. This is extremely frustrating when working with samples.

I'm not sure how to go about finding samples/sounds to put in a track like this. Is it better to envision stream of samples/FX in your head and try to build it that way, or is it better to just go through sample packs and look for sounds that may fit?

My problem with the first approach is that a lot of times, when I envision something in my head, I can't find the right samples for it. The second approach has a similar problem, in that I usually can't find the sounds that I want in my sample packs.

There have been times where I find some good samples and process it and it fits well, but times like those seem to happen more by mere luck.

ShugZ is not the first person to create driving basslines like this with FX everywhere, so I am sure there has to be some methodical approach to this. I feel like this kind of sampling/fx/resampling is something that could be easier as time goes on, as one accumulates more self made samples/fx.

I am also wondering if anyone can hear any specific fx/sampling tricks that he may have used. I read somewhere that in psy fx there can be a lot of LFO automation. Could someone provide an example of this? I am assuming one would be automating the LFO via LFOtool or something on the audio track, but what would I be automating?

Does anyone recognize what sample pack those random laughs/snickers/groans are from or if someone can direct to what kind of sample packs I should be looking for?

Finally, what is the best method to ripping high quality audio from movies to sample? I heard handbrake is good, which I have, I've just never used it.

Will appreciate any advice, thanks.

Mussar · « **Reply #1 on:** October 18, 2016, 01:39:56 am »

Well, in the first track the FX just sounds like high passed white noise - you can either use a synth or a sample of white noise, then high pass it and either sweep a low pass filter down or fade the volume out and voila.

For the vocal samples, they probably used a microphone and recorded it themselves.

Regarding sampling, we at The Producer's Forum don't condone using copyrighted material without express written permission of the copyright holder BUT I can say that Audio Hijack is my go-to for capturing audio from my computer that might not be easily downloadable.

A lot of these FX can be made by just high pass filtering or low pass filtering some sort of noise (or maybe something like a triangle/distorted sine wave if it sounds tonal) with an LFO on the cutoff. You can use LFOtool, you can use the filter's built-in LFO if it has it, you can draw it in manually... there are a thousand ways to get to the answer you're looking for. If you don't want to design it yourself, sign up for Splice and do a lot of digging!

vinceasot · « **Reply #2 on:** October 19, 2016, 01:21:33 pm »

well you have to get the basics right, so work with construction kits for starters,
you have to train your ears over time and some samples work better than others

over time, collect your own personal samples and build your own sample library
your own kicks, claps, rides etc

you should check out dave parkinson's trance essentials because the youtube clips you posted were uplifting trance, dave parkinson works with simon patterson

AB69 · « **Reply #3 on:** October 21, 2016, 12:31:22 am »

Quote from: vinceasot on October 19, 2016, 01:21:33 pm

well you have to get the basics right, so work with construction kits for starters,
you have to train your ears over time and some samples work better than others

over time, collect your own personal samples and build your own sample library
your own kicks, claps, rides etc

you should check out dave parkinson's trance essentials because the youtube clips you posted were uplifting trance, dave parkinson works with simon patterson

Mate no offense but can you stop giving me advice in my threads? I don't think you've ever really been helpful. I know you have good intentions and I appreciate that you are giving your time trying to post in other people's threads but you've literally been giving me the most basic advice as if I just started learning production this week. I have DPTE and most of the other FSS packs. Come on man...

However, the construction kits are a good point. The issue is, do you know of any construction kits that cover that much detail in terms of the placement of FX? I don't know of any.

EDIT: The 2 tracks I posted aren't even uplifting trance. I (and I think most other listeners) would consider it as tech trance...

Quote from: Mussar on October 18, 2016, 01:39:56 am

Well, in the first track the FX just sounds like high passed white noise - you can either use a synth or a sample of white noise, then high pass it and either sweep a low pass filter down or fade the volume out and voila.

For the vocal samples, they probably used a microphone and recorded it themselves.

Regarding sampling, we at The Producer's Forum don't condone using copyrighted material without express written permission of the copyright holder BUT I can say that Audio Hijack is my go-to for capturing audio from my computer that might not be easily downloadable.

A lot of these FX can be made by just high pass filtering or low pass filtering some sort of noise (or maybe something like a triangle/distorted sine wave if it sounds tonal) with an LFO on the cutoff. You can use LFOtool, you can use the filter's built-in LFO if it has it, you can draw it in manually... there are a thousand ways to get to the answer you're looking for. If you don't want to design it yourself, sign up for Splice and do a lot of digging!

I know about the downsweep, white noise, crash at the start. I know where those go, the upsweeps, downsweeps. I know about those transition sounds or sounds that make it sound like the track is flowing. I am talking about the FX sounds. So for the first track for example, I am not looking to see what FX is done at 0:00 specifically. The sounds at 0:00 is a crash downsweep and white noise just like pretty much any other trance intro. I am talking about the sounds from 0:00 - 1:37. If you want to help with a specific sound, what is the sound that comes in at 0:03? The first FX sound that comes after the downsweep. Or the stuttery sound at 0:18-0:19? These are the sounds I am trying to figure out and look for, or learn how to create and manipulate.

I'm really struggling to get the flow of FX. I don't even know what to do. The past 2 sessions of mine have been me going through sample folders and trying to find sounds. I think over the course of like 6-8 hours i've only found a handle of sounds. Not efficient at all. Idk how to get better at this aspect of production.

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AB69

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