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Layering Questions
« on: January 07, 2016, 12:38:22 am »
So when layering all the different sounds in a track, I often find I don't know what which point it is best to stop or add more sounds to "fill the space".
Sometimes I find it's nice to let a track have some breathing room as well.

What are your experiences with this topic and what advice would you give regarding the amount of layers used for different types of track?

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Re: Layering Questions
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2016, 12:54:52 am »
I think it's important NOT to create a huge wall of sound by "over-layering" rather than choosing/creating the right sounds to layer. I've learned it's better to think backwards when layering. For a lead saw sound I would layer it up with multiple VST's and then I would build the lead into my track instead of building the track around my lead. Also, do a bit of compressing to squash it together. I also layer some percussion together and send them to a bus to compress slightly.
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Re: Layering Questions
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2016, 01:00:04 am »
Depends on the kind of music you are making.

Generally with respect to my lead sound (electro/big room) I will use a combination of techniques, including:

1) Play multiple octaves - take the same synth channel, play one in key of D#5 and the other channel D#4
2) Pan two identical synths of the same key with multiple layers (two D#5's)
3) Detune your osc's, and assign a random LFO to detuned osc (around 1%)
4) Pan your synths - Pan one synth in key of D#5 100% left, one D#5 100% right, and then play a D#4 and D#5 in the center

Often I will use lighter synths for the panned 100%, then maybe a heavier different synth lead around 35%, and one straight in the middle. It depends on how your song is sounding you know.

Be open to trying new things. So what if it doesn't work? All you do is go back to the original sound and try something else.. it's never stuck like that you know

For percussion and intros I like to use the panning technique as well. You will be surprised how much room (both headroom and actual musical depth) you can create by playing the same instruments panned anywhere from say 25%-100% left or right. Generally I do not pan toms, snares, hi hats, and other intro elements to a full 100% as it can leave the middle a little empty.

Do not pan your bass.
« Last Edit: January 07, 2016, 01:02:48 am by Kenny Troy »

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Re: Layering Questions
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2016, 01:56:37 am »
Honestly, I just keep layering and muting. If I've added a new layer, and I mute it and find something is missing, then I keep it. If I mute it and find it sounds better without the last layer (in regards to the overall sound as a whole), I stop. I have anywhere from 6-8 sound layers for my lead/bass combo for the main part of a track, that's just how I personally like it.