it's not going to do any thing if you're not altering the signals that are being panned and kept center.

You're going to sum that source signal to mono if you do things like that.

what are you looking to get out of this technique you use?

Stereo field, width, etc is just an illusion caused by having different signals. So if you're playing multiple instances of the same signal back it's just going to sound louder. You have to affect the hard panned signals in some way to give the illusion of width. Simple things to try would be offsetting the signal slightly or shelving off extra lows and adding harmonic excitement.

Another way to improve stereo width (and I think you were trying to get to) would be the concept of double tracking - recording the same performance twice and hard panning the signals left and right. If you're doing this with a singer or a person playing guitar, the minor inconsistencies between the performances will change the overall signal enough so that when you play them back at the same time with one in each speaker, you get this very wide signal that tickles your eardrums.

If you're using a synthesizer (especially a VST plugin), you can simulate that effect by removing certain oscillator retriggers or otherwise enabling a free-flowing oscillator, then recording the signal's output twice and panning them like normal.

Quote from: Mussar on August 23, 2016, 03:24:08 pm

Another way to improve stereo width (and I think you were trying to get to) would be the concept of double tracking - recording the same performance twice and hard panning the signals left and right. If you're doing this with a singer or a person playing guitar, the minor inconsistencies between the performances will change the overall signal enough so that when you play them back at the same time with one in each speaker, you get this very wide signal that tickles your eardrums.

If you're using a synthesizer (especially a VST plugin), you can simulate that effect by removing certain oscillator retriggers or otherwise enabling a free-flowing oscillator, then recording the signal's output twice and panning them like normal.

HEY! This is kinda what I'm doing!! Thanks Mussar. Appreciated.

But pay attention to the details. You can't just take the same signal and pan things willy nilly. You'll end up with a mono signal.


You gotta change the sound character some in order to actually achieve that stereo image as Attila, Mussar, and I have said.


EDIT: my school response isn't as clear as when i am not in school.

Oh I'm sorry man I found humor in your message. Good humor.. That was a light hearted comment on my end. I hope you didn't read it as something else

In all seriousness though it's fun to pan things. I think experimentation trumps worrying about phasing at the start of a song. You can always sum to mono to be doubly sure if you are worried it might be an issue

you're good.