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Trance supersaw
« on: January 06, 2016, 09:05:19 pm »
How to make those very smooth trance supersaws in uplifting / anthemic trance?

I know how to make supersaws and plucks but no matter what I do it never sounds so smooth like in the tracks below. They either sound too detuned or not enough, and they sound very harsh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fF5zIm9vXA
4:20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HcI21inykU
2:20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsAv64mIw6k
3:20

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Re: Trance supersaw
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2016, 09:48:33 pm »
I think I was able to recreate the lead from the first track in Spire. Osc 1 & 2 are at full volume, osc 1 is tuned up 12 cents, detune set to 690, density at 500, 7 voices. Osc 2 is tuned down 12 cents, detune at 690, density at 425. Both oscillators are at full width. Routed to an infecto filter with a bit of resonance. All that then runs through some soft distortion set at about 25% dry/wet, set the drive to taste. Set your delay and reverb and you should be good to go. The key with these types of saws is the detune between the oscillators, not just the detuning on the individual oscillators. I've found that by spreading your 2 oscillators by +-12 cents in this case it gives you a less harsh sound.

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Re: Trance supersaw
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2016, 11:37:30 pm »
One word: layering

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Re: Trance supersaw
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2016, 11:46:47 pm »
Layering multiple soft-synths (VST's) gives supersaw's a unique feel. Use presets and tweak to make brighter...adjust filter cutoff...detune...use reverb
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Re: Trance supersaw
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2016, 12:01:10 am »
I think Geert uses a JP but not sure, used to have a studio full of hardware

tbh the supersaws in those tracks sound pretty harsh to me as well as messy in the overall production but maybe thats yt fuckin it up

One thing, maybe stupid i mention this, but if u didnt yet, worth looking into: envelope of the cutoff filter, add some attack to it and short/mid decay while the sustain is slightly lower than the attack peak.




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Re: Trance supersaw
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2016, 11:08:10 am »
Simpler than it seems.

Make a standard supersaw type thing, just two saw oscillators with some unison voices. Don't go overboard with the detuning. Give it a lowpass pluck, and automate the sustain.
Then duplicate it, transpose up one octave.

Add chorus, distortion, delay and reverb.

To get more of that huge, messy sound, try using a bit of vibrato and/or a phaser.

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Re: Trance supersaw
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2016, 04:48:26 pm »
Well to be honest, none of the examples you listed are "supersaws"

They are more heavily wet arpeggio patterns with a lot of delay and reverb on sends
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