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"Aggressive" Sidechain Question....
« on: June 23, 2016, 09:39:55 pm »
I am attempting a sound that sound similar to this:

https://youtu.be/S4GBnE8w90c?t=1m19s

I have a pad that I am trying to trigger via Bitwig's stock compressor and it seems like no matter how fast I make my Attack/Release or how much I mess around with the threshold and ratio to try to get it to duck the sound "aggressively" and quickly, I cannot seem to get anything like this as a result.

How do you guys think this is done? Maybe I'm just using a sub-par compressor. I've also considered getting LFO Tool by Steve Duda to just draw in LFO automation to the amplitude rather than messing with side chain at all.
« Last Edit: June 23, 2016, 09:41:28 pm by newman. »

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Re: "Aggressive" Sidechain Question....
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2016, 10:02:55 pm »
What's the lookahead window set to? I drop it to 0 for sidechaining.

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Re: "Aggressive" Sidechain Question....
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2016, 11:43:35 pm »
For the pad sound, I'd imagine the effect is done through messing with the attack on the amp env, rather than sidechaining. Saying that, it is definitely possible to achieve via sidechain compression. The parameters you'll want are a very high threshold, ratio and attack, and a very low release.

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Re: "Aggressive" Sidechain Question....
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2016, 12:22:07 am »
Ive seen some of the future bass stuff but i think sidechaing is only half the trick, its the notes and chords progressions that make that sound

yeah i think you should get LFO tool, its is a great plugin, along with nicky romero kick, the native ableton SC does the trick as well
« Last Edit: June 24, 2016, 12:27:26 am by vinceasot »

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Re: "Aggressive" Sidechain Question....
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2016, 03:38:37 pm »
Surely it's an Lfo routed to the bass with its rate changing
But I would go for a noise gate controled via midi for the overall effect

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Re: "Aggressive" Sidechain Question....
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2016, 06:07:17 am »
use gate sidechain
just volumen automation and that's it
also place your sidechain as last on ur effect chain

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Re: "Aggressive" Sidechain Question....
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2016, 03:50:19 pm »
So i have actually been messing around with trying to recreate something similar. Boombox cartel makes gnarly future bass like this and I spent most of yesterday trying to really perfect this type of sound. I can tell you that the easiest way to do it (the only one I know of really) is to use manual volume automation.

You'll have to draw in the volume automation and I can tell you it isn't a super quick process. But, it can yield really cool results when done in certain tempos/time signatures and really leaves for a of creativity when it comes to the kick drum.

I attatched a little screen shot of what I am referring to. You'll a pad layer, my snare drum (usually a pretty consistent beat here) and then my volume automation. Probably took me two hours to tweak and get it exactly where I want it but I'm pretty happy with it :)
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