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Remixes
« on: January 06, 2016, 07:53:38 pm »
Hello, this is an issue I've been wondering about for a while. I can't figure out how to do a proper remix. Like I don't understand how people take the "stems" which are just audio files of the song and blend their own elements into it and make it sound like one song.

Like for remix competitions, why on earth do they give out the stems ? Do people actually take the long ass wav file of the songs "drums (example)" and do shit with it?

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Re: Remixes
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2016, 08:29:33 pm »
Like for remix competitions, why on earth do they give out the stems ? Do people actually take the long ass wav file of the songs "drums (example)" and do shit with it?

I'd say lots of genres in electronic music heavily use sampling so having all the stems is definitely an asset. For me personally I'll only use drum fills and the vocals.
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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2016, 09:22:02 pm »
It depends on the song. Generally, all I think is necessary is the vocals, but sometimes chopping up a lead or changing some chords can lead to cool ideas. Really all you should think about when doing a remix is taking a song and imagining how you would've made it.

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Re: Remixes
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2016, 09:38:25 pm »
I'd try to find a "story" in the track, then rebuild it from scratch based on that "story". Try reinterpreting any melodies or rhythms you like, too, like playing them on a different sound, or using pieces of them as part of something else.

That's just one way to do remixes, though, some remixes are just "what if this was trap instead of big room". Either way, the point is to show everyone what you hear in a track.

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Re: Remixes
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2016, 10:24:57 pm »
It really depends on the song and what elements you want to retain from the original track. Of course if its a vocal track you'll want the acapella, but you can pretty much do anything with it. 95% of the time when I do vocal remixes I write a  a completely different set of chords for the vocal and it can feel like a different song.

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Re: Remixes
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2016, 12:06:45 am »
Hello, www.dancemusicproduction.com has a tutorial on how to go about remixing. Probably my fav tutorial website I've come across. It literally shows you a step by step for a track they did. I find this learning method very hand for me as I'm a visual learner.
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Re: Remixes
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2016, 02:04:11 am »
Sadowick has a great video tutorials on this topic like this one here with him remixing Animals.
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« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2016, 02:42:45 am »
It depends on the song. Generally, all I think is necessary is the vocals, but sometimes chopping up a lead or changing some chords can lead to cool ideas. Really all you should think about when doing a remix is taking a song and imagining how you would've made it.

Yep, same here. If the track has vocals then that's usually the only element I use from the Original track. If it's an instrumental track, then I pick one dominant element, and re-use it in some way or another, but write everything else new. It's best if your remix isn't the exact same style as the Original, just to add some variation to the release.

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Re: Remixes
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2016, 02:48:35 am »
I don't necessarily use the entire stem, but I will take parts of it to use for my interpretation. I break it up in samples for me to use.

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Re: Remixes
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2016, 10:42:31 am »
for me personally i need vocals, breakdown stems and/or midi files.
remixing for me, is like one of the easiest thing on earth if u have real vocals to work with

and again, it really depends on the track.

i tried to remix a firebeatz original from 2012 which is like instrumenal only,  exept the 1 bar vocal before the drop. i ended up making 2 new track and inserted the vocal. lol.

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Re: Remixes
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2016, 01:48:30 pm »
It is all down to personal preference but a method I found very effective, is to start with the acapella (assuming you are wanting to remix a vocal track). Select which part of the vocals you want to have as a vocal shout before the drop and work that into a build. Starting with a build is a very unusual technique as commonly people start with the drop, however when making a remix, the drop has  to sound good and link in with the vocals. Keep experimenting until you have a drop that works with the vocals and then build the rest of the track around that. Generally when I make remixes, I only use the vocals and nothing else, that still keeps essentials from the original while allowing me to turn it into my own song. I find remixes that are exactly the same as the original but with a different drop, intro & outro, very repetitive and really not very impressive, but if you're inexperienced in remixes it can be good to start out.

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« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2016, 06:25:07 pm »
If you can use the stems from the original track that's always helpful as you can pick out the parts you want to use and discard others without a lot of hassle. Ableton also has a cool feature where you can convert and audio clip into MIDI enabling you to copy parts if (like me) you struggle to identify all the notes in the song. Not only can you then change the sound but also add your own variations to parts.

Also remember not every remix has to be massively different from the original, so don't try drastically to completely deface the original stems or copy some of the melody etc.

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Re: Remixes
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2016, 08:23:43 pm »
On a side note, I always wondered this: There's always this condition in remix competitions to use at least one stem. So ... if you sample a kick drum, or crash cymbal, you can enter with original song as long as this little sample is in? :D
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Re: Remixes
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2016, 08:30:53 pm »
Repeat topic here, my post in the other thread:

I think the difference is that an original is completely open to you to be as creative as possible as an artist. For a remix, I believe it is about also being creative but also about capturing your take on the original artist's message. For me it usually is following a similar chord progression and doing a new melody. I also find myself gravitating towards strong lyrical tracks.

A very popular track is GTA - Red Lips the original and the Skrillex remix. I took the track and did a MelBounce style, a completely different take on a trap/dubstep track. I incorporated the essence of the original message by including a trap break 3/4 of the way through.

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Re: Remixes
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2016, 08:39:38 pm »
On a side note, I always wondered this: There's always this condition in remix competitions to use at least one stem. So ... if you sample a kick drum, or crash cymbal, you can enter with original song as long as this little sample is in? :D

Hmm, well within reason, I'm sure it still has to be identifiable as a remix. You can't just create an entirely new track using the same kick and pass it off as a remix in my opinion.