Quote from: Marrow Machines on May 19, 2016, 05:27:26 pm

Quote from: James Sweeney on May 19, 2016, 04:28:37 pm

ohhhhh, what i'm saying is that nobody would actually pay thousands for them if they were the same...
i'm not suggesting that price equals quality, just that there are obviously differences if people are paying a shit tonne of money for them

quote clean up...

glad we're on the same page.

yes but what would make the price point be considered that much money and why would people consider aiming to have those plug ins?

who tf cares... 

ilok cares about the little drummer bois

oh shit whaddup?

How much coloration is occurring and at what point does the coloration occur?

are you buying it for the tool or the color?

Quote from: Marrow Machines on May 20, 2016, 08:25:13 pm

How much coloration is occurring and at what point does the coloration occur?

are you buying it for the tool or the color?

to get the color you need to crank things a bit up (by the way, "famous" Soundgoodizer is just a preset from Maximus), otherwise if you don't go crazy on the knobs it acts as a standard limiter. After Maximus I noticed it added a nice warm to mid and higher bass. I don't know if I would buy it on it's own for saturation it adds, but it comes with Producer bundle of FL Studio

ok so considering the coloration from the plugin, that would effect the master output.

Would you want to extend to a point of coloration or some level of coloration on your master?

Does this coloration relate to achieving commercial loudness?

Should loudness and coloration be considered in your masters?

I understand the what would consider being "commercial", but i don't understand if there's a need for that to be the average reference point for the consumers.

Unless there's literally so much ambient noise that you NEED that whole BS.

hah this is coming into interrogation

Yes, I put Maximus exclusively on master channel, 99% of the time when I want to saturate the sound, otherwise I use Waves L2 for traditional limiting. I think I'm not going after a "commercial" sound, I use it on songs that I don't want to sound clean - most of the time sampled stuff and synthwave (80s cheesy shit )
https://soundcloud.com/itsdaimon/synthwave-thunder-lighting/s-HqYE4 here is the synthwave track I've been working on with maximus on master, it has that dirty compressed sound to it (at least for me)

I can't tell on consumers, but it i can see how a slight bit of dirt would appeal to this track.

Not so much so that you can hear it, but enough to give it some characteristic.

Thanks for helping understand why some one would want to push things a little hard to get a certain plug in characteristic in mastering.