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general consensus on how many hats you should use?
« on: May 17, 2016, 02:29:00 am »
if im making a song with a closed hat i like. should i be using multiple closed hats for variation or the same one pitched up and arp'd etc

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Re: general consensus on how many hats you should use?
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2016, 02:50:02 am »
need to use variations of closed hats, dont rely on 1 hat, it will sound dull
but dont overdo it lol


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Re: general consensus on how many hats you should use?
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2016, 02:58:08 am »
jsut trying to get an idea. just use similar sounding closed hats?

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Re: general consensus on how many hats you should use?
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2016, 03:07:37 am »
no they have to sound different when you layer them, so they cover the high freq or mids or lows


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Re: general consensus on how many hats you should use?
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2016, 03:09:06 am »
depends if you want to layer them all into one sound or use multiple.

You can use one hat or many, depending on the context you're looking for.

It's the same as layering any other element, you have to figure out how the layers fit together.--->one layer

other wise, it's the same way, but playing at different times.---->multiple layers with varying play

Look at the sound of a cymbal, and look at the sound of a drum machine cymbal....

Then decide how you want to layer them or play them..

edit: they don't have to sound different, but they can have characteristics that are different.

it really depends on what you want, and quite honestly this thread is so ambiguous that you probably won't get the answer you're looking for, unless you specify the problem a little better.

This is a question about YOUR TASTE, as a creator.

I know rusko has a phaser or a flanger on his hi hats, and some times he also pitched the shit out of them and made a cool little dittle with it.

Many producers don't even touch the damned things and they keep the beat like a real drummer would.


So you have to consider your context a little bit more and especially with the style or genre you're trying to do. Or, disregard all that shit and just make some crap and experiment to figure out what works for you and what you like.


TL;DR: doesn't matter how many hats you have, you can easily just put 0 as you can put a thousand..
« Last Edit: May 17, 2016, 03:14:35 am by Marrow Machines »
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Re: general consensus on how many hats you should use?
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2016, 03:22:33 am »
I like to layer different hi hat samples because it creates more width. There's not really a consensus on how many you should use. Since learning drums I try to think of it from a drummers perspective by making sure that I at least have one closed and one open hat sample with variations going on between the two. If one hi hat is all you need then just stick with that. If you're making something like DnB music then maybe you should look into a little bit more than just one hi hat.

no they have to sound different when you layer them, so they cover the high freq or mids or lows

Tbh why bother layering hi-hats for fullness when it's just so much easier to find a better sample? I layer for width not for fullness. 
« Last Edit: May 17, 2016, 03:25:27 am by Lydian »
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Re: general consensus on how many hats you should use?
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2016, 06:56:59 pm »
There's nothing wrong with using 1 hat. If your song sounds great with 1 hat, then use 1 hat.
If you want variation, then use multiple. This is really a creative choice, hats are just another percussive instrument.
I've never heard of using a hi-hat as an arp though :o