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taking a music theory class vs. learning it on my own
« on: May 11, 2016, 02:17:10 pm »
so I'm thinking about taking a music theory class at a community college, but I don't know if that'd be the best thing to do. none of my idols(madeon, porter robinson, etc.) took classes for it. they just learned music by themselves. what do you guys think about it?

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Re: taking a music theory class vs. learning it on my own
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2016, 02:42:55 pm »
I would strongly suggest taking classes whenever you have the opportunity over self-teaching theory, because there is a lot of information to learn and it can be hard to figure out what you need to learn and when. Here's a decent free little course that goes over a lot of the essentials you'd probably need to know to feel comfortable. If you feel like you need to learn more, look into the local community college class!

There is a point where theoretical knowledge will be less applicable to making dance music, so don't feel like you need to learn everything. A mastery of counterpoint might be really cool to apply to dance music, but it's definitely not necessary. Just absorb each new level of information as it comes - there's a lot of contradictions, a lot of "you don't do this, but later on you'll learn why you do do this", and everything else that comes as a result of hundreds or thousands of people experimenting over centuries to figure out all this stuff.

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Re: taking a music theory class vs. learning it on my own
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2016, 02:48:14 pm »
thanks mussar! I'll definitely check that link out. I just want to become the best musician I can be, but the thought of taking a class makes me feel sort of conflicted when my idols are against going to school for music.

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Re: taking a music theory class vs. learning it on my own
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2016, 03:12:42 pm »
thanks mussar! I'll definitely check that link out. I just want to become the best musician I can be, but the thought of taking a class makes me feel sort of conflicted when my idols are against going to school for music.

And you don't have enough personality to decide things for yourself?

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Re: taking a music theory class vs. learning it on my own
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2016, 03:21:20 pm »
ouch. well no, it's not that I don't have enough of a personality to decide things for myself. it's just that I'm already 50/50 on taking classes for it because I usually like to teach myself things, and the fact that my idols are against it just amplifies my doubts about it. so it just leaves wondering if I'm better off just doing it by myself.

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Re: taking a music theory class vs. learning it on my own
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2016, 03:33:07 pm »
my idols are against going to school for music.
Have you really looked at why they think that way, though? Most of the time someone says they don't like music theory, or formal music education, it's because it somehow limits what they can do and sets "rules"... which is bullshit. Theory doesn't tell you what you can't do, it just describes what's already there, and my high school music program was REALLY helpful when I actually had to start composing stuff.

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Re: taking a music theory class vs. learning it on my own
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2016, 04:05:00 pm »
I think taking a music theory class only becomes really helpful once you get into the upper intermediate levels of study like counterpoint and part writing.

Everything before that you can learn on your own and just talk to other guys for clarity.
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Re: taking a music theory class vs. learning it on my own
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2016, 04:15:39 pm »
You can take a look at these:

http://www.global-trance.com/misc/music_theory_tldr.pdf

http://www.musictheory.net/

These are the basics of music theory. You can decide on the fact whether you like this or not, if you want to go to school. But there's a lot that you can learn on your own.

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Re: taking a music theory class vs. learning it on my own
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2016, 07:46:38 am »
all you will ever need: 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpzgTNTgQsR9YYsyOm3k3KQ


As a music producer (don't know what you produce) but if its some sort of dance music - this isn't Mozart type shit. Learn the basics; scales, some chord structures etc and you are away.  Some of the biggest names in the industry confess to not having a clue about music theory - just basic stuff. Examples: Prydz or Deadmau5.

anyway that guy has uploaded loads of free music theory videos, piano playing videos etc.  There is absolutely no need to go do a course on music theory - unless you want to say...learn an instrument. Get the basics down and its literally all you need to 'produce' music. Yes being a musical genius in theory will help you massively, however; you do not NEED to know it.

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Re: taking a music theory class vs. learning it on my own
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2016, 12:31:46 pm »
everything is available online now, i dont think school can teach creativity though which extends beyond general music theory


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Re: taking a music theory class vs. learning it on my own
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2016, 12:49:27 pm »
thanks to everyone for the suggestions; I'll check out the links when I get home from school. i already know the basics of music theory, and id say a lot of the intermediate level theory, but I've thought about it and I think that practicing the concepts I already know and perfecting my understanding of them will help me more than learning a bunch of new, even more complicated stuff at a college. thanks again everyone!