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Syntorial
« on: January 06, 2016, 06:02:55 pm »
Hi there!


There was this AMA on reddit from a student of Icon Collective i read, in which he said Syntorial is a really great vst to learn about synthesis and you will actually be able to make the sounds that you have in mind. Are there any users here that have used Syntorial, and if so, what are your thoughts about it, and did it really help you with your sound design?

for those who don't know what syntorial is: http://www.syntorial.com/

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Re: Syntorial
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2016, 07:19:00 pm »
I've started it recently, and it definitely helps you think through the process of how to get to a certain sound. You don't need to know anything about synthesis going into, so it does start pretty slow. I can't speak to the later half of it in regards to how advanced it gets though.

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Re: Syntorial
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2016, 07:38:43 pm »
Syntorial is fantastic. If you're a newbie to sound design, its a great way to get your feet wet with the fundamentals of patch design.

Once you finish Syntorial, I also suggest you apply the same concept to some of your favorite synths. Pick out some of your favorite patches and try remaking them without looking at the patch. It's a great way to get comfotable moving around a new synth and to get a feeling for what all the different effects do.
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Re: Syntorial
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2016, 07:56:19 pm »
It seems like if nothing else it would be a good resource to refresh your memory on the fundamentals every so often. Thanks for sharing!

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Re: Syntorial
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2016, 02:24:23 pm »
I'm not really a newbie with sound design. I know what lfo, envelopes, filters and so on do, but whenever i have something in my head, it's just an endless struggle to actually make something that i want it to sound like. Lately, i'm really into bass house music (habstrakt, Jvst say yes, ghastly,...) and trying to make some, but nothing seems to sound good, or there is something wrong and i just don't know how to fix it. I feel like sound design is one of the few things that really holds me back from actually making music, because i get discouraged whenever some synth won't be good. Does it also go into more complex patches? Cause that's what i'm kind of heading for.

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Re: Syntorial
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2016, 05:58:00 pm »
I finished the free demo and it went over all stuff I already knew, but at the same time by the time i was done with that I was able to discern differences in sounds I was trying to recreate much better than I did before. I would say that there's probably nothing in it that you could not learn with enough youtube tutorials and experimentation (that's pretty much what everyone des), but this provides the benefit that any dedicated schooling on a particular subject gives: A guided methodology of learning with built-in reinforcement of concepts that all build upon previous foundations. It's repetitive and often seems boring, so if you're autodidactic and just experiment you'll learn the same stuff eventually - the difference is something like Syntorial or a synthesizer course at one of the music production schools (point blank, ICON, etc) helps to ensure there are no gaps in your knowledge, and overall just streamlines the time it takes to gain experience. It's no substitute for experience, however!

I'm probably gonna buy it because I learn best in structured, syllabus-driven learning environments. A hundred thirty bucks is a lot for something that isn't obligatory, however, so I couldn't recommend it for someone who is comfortable just listening to SeamlessR videos all day.

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Re: Syntorial
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2016, 06:23:48 pm »
I'm probably gonna buy it because I learn best in structured, syllabus-driven learning environments. A hundred thirty bucks is a lot for something that isn't obligatory, however, so I couldn't recommend it for someone who is comfortable just listening to SeamlessR videos all day.
Me too, i've watched countless videos and it's not that i don't learn anything, but it's much more likely that i will actually remember things when i learn it in a structural andere practical manier. I van read an entire article about synthesis and understand what they're saying, but to actually use the theory i've just learned is hard for me