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Modes
« on: January 06, 2016, 05:45:19 pm »
I'm aware of the basic theory behind modes, but I'm a bit uncertain how to apply them to writing music. In my productions, I typically just pick a scale and write chords around that without much thought to the mode.


So I have a few questions that can hopefully start a discussing on your different uses of modes:

Do you typically start a track with a key and mode in mind?
Do certain genres tend to use certain modes?
Have you found that specific modes have a feeling or theme that they convey?

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Re: Modes
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2016, 06:29:18 pm »
I will definitely choose a mode depending on how I want the track to feel. What I've noticed is that most genres of electronic music stick to the regular Major (Ionian) and Minor (Aeolian) modes. The Minor mode can also be written in Harmonic or Melodic Minor, Harmonic Minor is that classic Armada records sound, with the progression ending on a chord containing the raised 7th and I find that Harmonic can provide some interesting tension.

Now, since you've brought up modes I'm assuming you know there are 7 main modes, Ionian, Dorian, Phrygian, Lydian, Mixolydian, Aeolian, and Locrian. All these modes definitely have an individual feeling, for example Lydian mode can have an uplifting feeling to it (since it is a variation on the major scale) without sounding cheesy. Dorian mode is a variation on the Minor scale and can have a slightly more energetic, less depressing sound when compared with the regular Minor scale. Both Lydian and Dorian modes have been heavily used in a lot of progressive trance within the past couple years. The Phrygian mode is probably one of my favourites, if you're going for a more Middle Eastern vibe this is the mode you want, it has an exotic sound to it while still managing to sound complete. What I've found through simple trial and error is that pretty much every mode works for electronic music except for Locrian and Mixolydian. Mixolydian can be made to work for a melody and can sound cool at times, but I would never suggest creating a Mixolydian chord progression for your track, I feel like it sounds like shit but to each their own. The Locrian mode is my least favourite because it just sounds unfinished when you play it, which probably has something to do with it starting and ending on the 7th note of the major scale.

So, in conclusion there are 5 modes which IMO work well for dance/electronic music;
  • Ionian (Major) - Happy, Cheesy at times
  • Aeolian (Minor) - Dark, Most common mode in dance music
  • Dorian - Dark-ish, Higher energy than Minor, Slightly happier than Minor
  • Lydian - Uplifting, Happy (less so than Major), Energetic (My personal favourite mode)
  • Phrygian - Exotic, Middle eastern vibe

Hope this helps  :D

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Re: Modes
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2016, 07:33:45 pm »
Thanks this is great! Definitely gives me a better idea of what direction to go in.

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Re: Modes
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2016, 09:08:08 pm »
To add to this, I would experiment with changing modes, whether for chord substitutions or for melodies. This song is one of many examples of dynamic chord progressions. For some reason, Japan has a bunch of this kind of music, where the chords kinda go everywhere. If you look up other songs by this artist, you'll see a lot of this. Good luck with your experimentation.

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Re: Modes
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2016, 09:32:05 pm »
On the opposite side of this conversation, if you feel like doing a little more research on modes i'd recommend checking out Modal Jazz as well. This book I just googled a few minutes ago puts pretty well.

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The term “modal jazz” refers to improvisational music that is organized in a scalar (“horizontal”) way rather than in a chordal (“vertical”) manner. By de-emphasizing the role of chords, a modal approach forces the improviser to create interest by other means: melody, rhythm, timbre, and emotion. A modal piece will generally use chords, but the chords will be more or less derived from the prevailing mode.

Modal music is a seriously interesting take on music that I haven't seen used in electronic music too often outside of music with jazz samples or jazz inspired electronic music. If you need to brush up on scales learning to play or write some modal music is the way to go.

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Re: Modes
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2016, 03:05:44 am »
Do you typically start a track with a key and mode in mind?

All the music I write is intended for me to sing to, so I try to write in keys where I'm comfortable singing. If you use vocals in your music, you might want to do that too.

Do certain genres tend to use certain modes?

Probably, but if so that's a good reason for you to try to do something different. That'll help you stand out!

Have you found that specific modes have a feeling or theme that they convey?

To flesh out the modes sforys left out, in case you're interested:

Mixolydian - Bright and happy but warm, with just a tad of Eastern-ness.
Locrian - Dark, crazy, a bit unpredictable--no perfect 5th!

Phrygian is more of a Spanish-sounding mode (think flamenco dancers) than Middle Eastern. When Western music impersonates music from the Middle East it typically uses harmonic minor, which is aeolean but with a sharp (natural) 7th. If you want to do Middle Eastern more authentically, you have to use semitones: try Phyrgian but with the 2nd a quarter-tone flat.

Augmented and diminished scales aren't modes, but these are good to know about too.

General advice WRT modes:

Don't think about it too much. These can be helpful if you're really stuck when coming up with harmonies or adding ornaments to a melody, but your emphasis should be on creating a melody that feels right. Sticking with one mode or scale will usually just make your music boring, and often less likely to stand out.

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Re: Modes
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2016, 01:19:22 pm »
I used to see music theory as overly complicated jargon that recapitulates the same concepts in seemingly disparate forms. While that's not completely untrue, any thorough discipline will have overlapping vocabulary. Modes are definitely one of those things... somewhere in the intersection of scales, keys, octaves, intervals and harmonics, modes pop up. I tend to try to reduce processes to their most basic forms. Hopefully this dissection will add to your understanding of how modes can be used.

A mode is a pattern of intervals starting at any particular root note (the key). A section of a mode that repeats each octave is a scale. Scales overlap... a lot. Every scale can be expressed as a transposition of another scale in a different mode. A motif is a recognizable "unit" of "thematic identity"... typically a short rhythm or clever syncopation stretched over a few note intervals. Each note in a motif is in the same key & mode... and when the motif is repeated and transposed to a different key, the mode is preserved in that new key. Usually, some artistic transitions are used to soften the repetitiveness of the motif... also preserving mode. These repetitions, transpositions, and transitions form a melody.

The transpositions mentioned above do not necessarily need to be in the same key & mode... i.e. a melody can change key. That's a progression. A melody can certainly change modes too, though that can get intense quickly. I don't believe in deciding to write key progressions before melodies, or vice versa... an understanding like this enables many creative approaches to composition. It is common for musicians to be able to compose a "one-note" melody - as this is simply a natural vocalization of a basic mental process (humming or singing a song in your head). Composing this way often leads to simple sounding music because the resulting melody is either in one key, or transposes so frequently the composer cannot identify supporting harmonies without a thorough understanding of music theory and so supports only the key & mode of the root note (or safe things like 5ths & 3rds).

Also, a composition does not need to stay in the same mode. Often a mode change can be employed to separate parts of a song (e.g. verse from refrain).

As far as genre specifics go... no, there's nothing typical. With music "at large," some modes are more prevalent than others, especially in certain cultures... but I don't think this has anything to do with their appropriateness for a particular genre. From what I understand, modes add a type of musical organization the brain recognizes as cohesive... and that's as far as it goes. Because a motif in one key/mode may overlap completely with another key/mode, how is one to tell them apart? It's often the inclusion of one defining interval that gives a melody is identity as being "in" a mode. It's really only when all of a mode's intervals are traversed like a scale (or at least played in close proximity) that the "cultural sound" of a mode becomes apparent... which is to say, an adept composer can "sneak in" the use of modes (and benefit from more complicated, aurally aesthetic musical structures) without overtly coloring the sound of their composition. Mat Zo, Dyro, Naten, Feed Me... doin' this stuff all the time... every time. :)
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