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upgrading from scarlett 2i2 interface
« on: May 06, 2016, 01:57:50 pm »
any recommendations? preferably something under $500. I'm on pc and use ableton live if that makes a difference

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Re: upgrading from scarlett 2i2 interface
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2016, 04:58:46 pm »
Under $500? I think the 2i2 is probably gonna be near the top of your price point, The Apogee Duet is just under $600 and is probably what I would consider top quality in the entry level audio interface department. You really should be fine with the 2i2 until you're ready to drop a grand or two on something like the Apollo Twin or a rack-mounted interface.

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Re: upgrading from scarlett 2i2 interface
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2016, 07:06:21 pm »
depends on what you want to do with ableton an the interface.

If you want to do live stuff, as in live performances, then you should get the 2i4 because of the multiple outputs for headphone que and main speaker output
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Re: upgrading from scarlett 2i2 interface
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2016, 06:18:23 pm »
Can I ask why you're upgrading from the 2i2?  Does it not do what you need it to?  Or do you need more inputs/outputs?  (Obviously, if this is the case, Scarlett has larger versions). 

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Re: upgrading from scarlett 2i2 interface
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2016, 02:38:26 am »
Scarlett 18i8 :D

I got it because the 2i2 only had 2 inputs. I like to plug in my bass, guitar, and microphone simultaneously though and got tired of having to adjust the levels all the time whenever I had to take one out.
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Re: upgrading from scarlett 2i2 interface
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2016, 04:41:26 am »
piggybacking off of this, i have a stupid question. i've never used an external audio interface, just the built-in soundcard on my pc. is there that much of a difference in sound quality between the two, or are interfaces more for recording stuff?

I've done both before. I don't think you can't get a good quality by using the built in sound card on your pc. All of the guitar covers I made in my youtube videos were recorded using the built in sound card on my old mac.

The whole point of the audio interface for me is so I can easily switch between instruments. I already have my bass, guitar, and microphone setup into my scarlett so if I want to record something I can just open up an audio track in logic and hit record. It's also a lot easier to do gain staging with audio interfaces because they come with knobs to adjust the gain of the input and signals that will tell you when you're clipping. Not to mention that I own a condenser microphone which can only be ran underneath 48v phantom power which is provided by my scarlett.

So yes. Interfaces are more for recording stuff. I don't think you can plugin in studio monitors without them either. Take that last statement with a big grain of salt.
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Re: upgrading from scarlett 2i2 interface
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2016, 05:07:52 am »
the external sound card processes the sound specifically.

It's like having a really good graphics card.

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Re: upgrading from scarlett 2i2 interface
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2016, 05:39:39 am »
piggybacking off of this, i have a stupid question. i've never used an external audio interface, just the built-in soundcard on my pc. is there that much of a difference in sound quality between the two, or are interfaces more for recording stuff?

There's some interesting stuff I was reading a couple weeks ago about sound cards, but more about how they relate to converting analog signal to digital. A lot of mastering engineers avoid clocking and jitter issues when working in the digital domain by investing in an external DAC which can be more beneficial in that sort of context than using a computer's built in sound card which can introduce a noticeable noise floor. Doesn't really apply to interfaces though..

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Re: upgrading from scarlett 2i2 interface
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2016, 02:31:31 pm »
Your computer's sound card is usually soldered onto the motherboard, and it not intended to handle the amplitude or quality that your DAW is gonna be putting out. Like has already been said, the interface offloads ALL of that work onto a dedicated piece of hardware with better quality digital/analog converters and overall a more sophisticated piece of technology for representing the information - and the more high-quality the interface the more powerful the converters and pre-amplifiers within it for recording signals. A lot of interfaces on the higher end also function as Digital Signal Processors, and can run certain plugins straight off the soundcard without impacting the performance of your computer.

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Re: upgrading from scarlett 2i2 interface
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2016, 02:52:44 pm »
Just to clarify, the quality of the sound card matters only for recording and output to speakers (AD/DA converters). So comparing to a GPU is not very accurate, except in the case of DSP chips, where the benefit is reduced CPU usage.

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Re: upgrading from scarlett 2i2 interface
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2016, 03:21:06 pm »
except in the case of DSP chips, where the benefit is reduced CPU usage.

Bingo
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Re: upgrading from scarlett 2i2 interface
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2016, 03:56:37 pm »
except in the case of DSP chips, where the benefit is reduced CPU usage.

Bingo

But that doesn't help with VSTs at all. It's more like playing games that are built in the graphics card...

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Re: upgrading from scarlett 2i2 interface
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2016, 06:07:03 pm »
except in the case of DSP chips, where the benefit is reduced CPU usage.

Bingo

But that doesn't help with VSTs at all. It's more like playing games that are built in the graphics card...

Doesn't matter, I meant it to be exactly how it was described in the quote.

I know that the computer is the sum of it's parts, other people might not know this.

It's a like getting a good mix, but you're dealing with efficiency in your processing.

And the interface is a tool to alleviate the processing so that you can use vsts in a way that's more directed towards processing.

So, in a way it does help reduce the load, by redirecting the load. Inadvertently helping the situation by doing what it's job is suppose to do, which is to handle audio processing (like a graphics card).
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Re: upgrading from scarlett 2i2 interface
« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2016, 02:08:45 am »
oh wow, didn't expect so many replies! well to clarify some things: i mainly want to upgrade because the stereo image is kinda wonky at low volumes(ie. the right is much louder than the left). I don't really like using headphones for a long period and I have to turn it down at night. also upgrading my equipment always inspires me to work on more music haha

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Re: upgrading from scarlett 2i2 interface
« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2016, 02:55:24 am »
oh wow, didn't expect so many replies! well to clarify some things: i mainly want to upgrade because the stereo image is kinda wonky at low volumes(ie. the right is much louder than the left). I don't really like using headphones for a long period and I have to turn it down at night. also upgrading my equipment always inspires me to work on more music haha

That is really strange. My scarlett 2i2 never displayed an uneven stereo image.

I think you should reevaluate the source of the problem.
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