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rat010104

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connect two chord progressions
« on: May 05, 2016, 03:44:22 pm »
Hi there :-) im Alex and im a weirdo :-D
Just kidiing ;-) anyway
When i compose its so nice as long as i have 8 bars.
After that im comming up with a New idea which i think could lead to those 8 bars but, damn.
It newer realy owns it. Both riffs are awesome but they seem to be from two different worlds, but theyr of course in the Same scale netherless they dont "understand" each other. Sometimes im lucky and it works, but Hey i wanna know things an dont only rely on luck.
So My First Riff determines a chord progression okay. My secound Riff hast a New chord progression, why is it they dont sound good After another?
I know plenty of Songs that have changing progressions :-)
So wtf?
I wanna Go from progression A to B from B to C from C to D and from D to A and that by Formular and not Sitting there for 100 h trying  :-) kann anybody enlighten please :-D
Thanks for any help xxx
Kind regards Alex :-)
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Re: connect two chord progressions
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2016, 04:56:55 am »
Instead of sitting there for 100 hours just banging your head against a wall, go listen to some music. Bring them into your DAW and try to work out how it all connects together. What chords are they using? How often do they change? Are they really changing as often as yours are? Ask yourself questions about what they are doing that you're not doing, and what you're doing that they're not doing.
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Re: connect two chord progressions
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2016, 06:19:16 pm »
K :-)  thanks for ur reply. Ive Been doing the analysing thing for quite a while now. I just thought that maybe there is an easy "concept" or logic to narrow it down. Its quite a complicated thing, like an equation with many variables.u can solve It but It takes time :-)
U c there is so much to know about Chords but in the end i feel like analysing has limits and in the end u just have to Rock the goddamn keyboard. True?
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Re: connect two chord progressions
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2016, 06:37:16 pm »
Quote from: rat010104 on May 07, 2016, 06:19:16 pm
K :-)  thanks for ur reply. Ive Been doing the analysing thing for quite a while now. I just thought that maybe there is an easy "concept" or logic to narrow it down. Its quite a complicated thing, like an equation with many variables.u can solve It but It takes time :-)
U c there is so much to know about Chords but in the end i feel like analysing has limits and in the end u just have to Rock the goddamn keyboard. True?
You don't have to know any instruments for that tbh. Just practice a lot :) Also, if you want to connect 2 chord progressions its all about how you want it to sound and then also how you transition from one into another. It should be at a point where it sounds natural and ofcourse proper automation of filters can help make the transition sound more natural.
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Re: connect two chord progressions
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2016, 08:00:01 pm »
:-) thx for rply ;-) its going better today. Guess its just trial and error in the end :-D knowing Chords just gives u more contious options to try, but the context is always different, so u always have to find the most suiting option by trying.
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Re: connect two chord progressions
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2016, 06:06:31 am »
Yeah don't underestimate the effect of transition FX and fills, you can connect things surprisingly well with those. But an easy way to make your parts more cohesive is to use similar rhythmic patterns and/or melodic lines in different parts. For example, your melody in the chorus could have a similar rhythm to the verse, but different notes. Or vice versa. It sometimes helps to think in terms of varying motifs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motif_(music)).
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Re: connect two chord progressions
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2016, 09:24:43 pm »
Yeah thats a good point ! Rhythm should stay , So u dan Groove to it. Notes can change though :-)
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Re: connect two chord progressions
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2016, 11:48:05 pm »
you gotta learn some music theory man, the major and minor chords etc

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Re: connect two chord progressions
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2016, 06:08:03 am »
Quote from: rat010104 on May 09, 2016, 09:24:43 pm
Yeah thats a good point ! Rhythm should stay , So u dan Groove to it. Notes can change though :-)

I wouldn't make such a strict rule, what I meant was more like... some things can stay. Don't change everything.
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Re: connect two chord progressions
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2016, 01:20:28 pm »
To be honest .. i dont realy have Problems with Songs that have strong Chords, its mostly Songs that have One Riff only so One Note at the time. I feel lost because its not really sure what chord it is, as soon as i Put Chords to it it doesnt feel as light weight anymore. Its like with Quantum physiks,  they change as soon as u measure them :-D
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Re: connect two chord progressions
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2016, 10:09:34 am »
I'm assuming you know some music theory? If not get into it because it will help a lot with linking progressions together. Make sure both parts are in the same key or at least closely related to eachother you can check this by seeing what notes are in the chords. For example if you have a part A that's in say C major the part B could be in the relative minor key which would be A minor. They both share the same notes but have a different tonal center.
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