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Reverb on the entire mix?
« on: January 06, 2016, 05:07:58 pm »
People have been saying that I should be sending everything to a reverb bus and this adds some glue to the track. I saw Flux Pavilion do it in that new in-the-studio video of how he made Emotional but he did it inside Ozone 5.

- My question is do you really just send everything to the reverb bus? Even your kick and basses? Or should you EQ out low frequencies and just do bus reverb for like >500Hz?

Edit: What other kind of settings should your reverb bus have?

Thanks!
« Last Edit: January 06, 2016, 05:15:13 pm by GuttyDozen »

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Re: Reverb on the entire mix?
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2016, 05:17:13 pm »
The objective of sending everything to a reverb bus to add 'glue' is really to make everything sound like it's been recorded in the same room.

I send everything at different levels to a reverb buss track, then move the overall volume of the reverb buss level up or down depending on how much overall 'room' sound I want to hear in my mix. There is an EQ after the reverb on this buss also that gets rid of the low end sound of the reverb, and some of the highs too.

It's a concept that works well for me. Just don't add too much room reverb on things like your Kick - it sounds a little weird IMO.
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Re: Reverb on the entire mix?
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2016, 05:58:15 pm »
definitely not your kick, but higher layers of your bass sounds sound good with a bit of reverb! as long as you high pass everything at 500 or 1k and make sure the bus is at a relatively low volume you're good to go

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Re: Reverb on the entire mix?
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2016, 06:04:17 pm »
Perfect that's basically the information I was looking for!

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Re: Reverb on the entire mix?
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2016, 06:08:27 pm »
that being said it's highly track dependant! for heavier stuff you might want to stay on the dry side beside having stereo/delay fx on individual channels

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Re: Reverb on the entire mix?
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2016, 07:19:16 pm »
It really depends on the track. Actually it's a good idea to always do it, but how much?

Start out with minimum decay and a low mix. Then bring up the mix and decay until it sounds right. If you have each type of instrument (lead, chord, bass, drums, etc) on their own busses, before they go into the master, maybe bus all those into a final two: drums and instruments. Then put separate reverbs on each. A smaller one on drums, and a slightly louder and larger reverb on the instruments.

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Re: Reverb on the entire mix?
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2016, 10:29:53 pm »
Well, If that's the feel you are going for go ahead. Just try to keep your low end dry. Everything that's higher in the frequency spectrum should be fine.

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Re: Reverb on the entire mix?
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2016, 10:35:40 pm »
Putting a reverb on the whole mix and leaving it wet offends every fibre of my sensibilities. However, you might see a reverb on my master for automating it in during buildups but leaving it completely dry at all other times. Otherwise reverb on the master just adds mess, especially with an already crowded mixdown. I could imagine it maybe working on a very very sparse track

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Re: Reverb on the entire mix?
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2016, 10:43:28 pm »
The only time I have ever seen a reverb on the whole mix it was flux's emotional breakdown (@19:00): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLBPLyOzN_I

any time I've tried it or heard of other people trying it though they say it's not good

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Re: Reverb on the entire mix?
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2016, 10:43:50 pm »
Putting a reverb on the whole mix and leaving it wet offends every fibre of my sensibilities. However, you might see a reverb on my master for automating it in during buildups but leaving it completely dry at all other times. Otherwise reverb on the master just adds mess, especially with an already crowded mixdown. I could imagine it maybe working on a very very sparse track

Did you use the reverb on the master trick for the build up to your Collect My Love remix?
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Re: Reverb on the entire mix?
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2016, 10:47:16 pm »
Flux Pavilion actually put reverb on his master chain for Emotional of Tesla, and I think that ties into the sparseness of it: A kick, a snare, some hats, a vocal, and basic waveforms in chord stacks.

EDIT: Damnit, Shew beat me to it haha.

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Re: Reverb on the entire mix?
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2016, 11:01:26 pm »
Putting a reverb on the whole mix and leaving it wet offends every fibre of my sensibilities. However, you might see a reverb on my master for automating it in during buildups but leaving it completely dry at all other times. Otherwise reverb on the master just adds mess, especially with an already crowded mixdown. I could imagine it maybe working on a very very sparse track

Did you use the reverb on the master trick for the build up to your Collect My Love remix?

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Re: Reverb on the entire mix?
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2016, 11:13:20 pm »
Yeah, I would never add reverb on the entire mix. It's like.. spending days or weeks creating a 3D sounding track and putting it all in place, just to throw a blanket over it all and mess it up. I only have reverb on the individual channels, used very carefully, and if there's any reverb in my master channel then it's only to automate it if I want transition effects.

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Re: Reverb on the entire mix?
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2016, 11:39:59 pm »
Before the days of modern electronic production, adding reverb on the entire mix was a common practice. The point was it would add a nice atmospheric effect on a subtle level. As a matter of fact, this practice is still done A LOT around non-electronic music still to this day. But because electronic music has so much leeway (well, more so than real instrumental mixes), you don't really have to... but try it out and see if you like it.

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Re: Reverb on the entire mix?
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2016, 11:42:49 pm »
People have been saying that I should be sending everything to a reverb bus and this adds some glue to the track. I saw Flux Pavilion do it in that new in-the-studio video of how he made Emotional but he did it inside Ozone 5.

- My question is do you really just send everything to the reverb bus? Even your kick and basses? Or should you EQ out low frequencies and just do bus reverb for like >500Hz?

Edit: What other kind of settings should your reverb bus have?

Thanks!

Can i get a link to that in the studio?