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Sidechaining
« on: April 17, 2016, 09:09:33 pm »
Can someone give me a rundown on sidechaining? I'm attempting to use fabfilter pro-c to do it and the whole process confuses me completely. Thought I understood it and then everything got blown out of the water.

Basically my snare disappears in a mixdown because of my synth. I've done the proper eq'ing to make it stand out as much as possible, but I know a proper sidechain would make it perfect.

Can someone just elaborate on how to do that? Would be a HUGE help to me as it's something I'm completely lost with right now and it's so frustrating.

Thank you in advance! :)

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Re: Sidechaining
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2016, 12:14:08 am »
for just a by-the-numbers tutorial, here's a video of how you'd sidechain using pro-c. i dont personally use pro-c, i use a peak controller (which is arguably more convoluted), but that tutorial should get you where you wanna be.

also, some things that help a lot with getting more control out of sidechaining:
dont be afraid to sidechain only specific frequencies out. (i.e. you can drop out a whole bassline, or just the lowend)
use multiple SCs for individual instruments (smaller ones on the lead/pads and larger ones on the bass, etc) to let things breath more
use shorter samples, like a trap snare or white noise, to trigger the SC so you can adjust the release yourself.

Watched the vid and it helped a bit. But I still I know of 2 different ways to sidechain in fl (pro-c and using the limiter compresssion), but I still don't know how to sidechain into specific frequencies by doing that. IE, on this song I'm currently working on when the kick/sub and this airy whistle I made play together it causes a clipping noise on said frequency. It's on the punchier fqs of the kick and I'm wondering how I can sidechain just those frequencies specifically and haven't found anything guidewise. :/

Thank you for the help so far though!

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Re: Sidechaining
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2016, 12:45:47 am »
Nicky Romeros Kickstart Vst is very helpful with sidechaining

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Re: Sidechaining
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2016, 01:05:48 am »
Nicky Romeros Kickstart Vst is very helpful with sidechaining

That's automated sidechaining. I need reactive sidechaining. 2 different things.

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Re: Sidechaining
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2016, 12:03:47 pm »
I use ableton, so I can't really help with FL's native plugins, but they gave a pretty good run down on what you could do. just remember to ALWAYS use a very small click or something like that to activate the sidechain. don't use your kick or snare. using a click gives you way more control

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Re: Sidechaining
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2016, 04:42:24 am »
Just for the sake of education, I wanna point out that "sidechaining" isn't just what most of us think of as sidechaining - but ducking. We're using a sidechain trigger - where an effect like an EQ, a gate, or a compressor is activated based on the input of the signal sent to it - to cause the audio signal to "duck" out of the way on regular intervals or when receiving an external sidechain impulse.

Something like VolumeShaper/LFOTool/Kickstart can be used to reactively duck by creating an empty MIDI signal that is fed into whatever track you have the plugin on - with the first two you even get custom shaping of how the audio is cut!

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Re: Sidechaining
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2016, 07:01:13 am »
play with xfer LFO