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Bass
« on: April 15, 2016, 04:29:08 pm »
I have a problem where if I have heavy bass or a bass drop it pulls the volume of everything else down. It almost sounds like it's pulsing. Can someone please help me understand how to fix this and have heavy bass without causing everything else to pull down? I thought I had everything eq'd and compressed decently, but I guess not. I'm using FL Studio so if you could recommend stuff that is already in there or free plugins that work better it'd be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

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Re: Bass
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2016, 04:44:35 pm »
you probably have the bass way to loud.

If it's a sub bass you're referring too, you need to balance it better.

even though it's "WOAH BRO SICK BASS, I CAN FEEL MY EYE BALLS ROLL UP INTO MY SKULL PAST THE ABYSS OF MY SOUL", it's not that loud...

The difference is your play back system. You have to be aware of good studio monitoring levels, and the levels they use live shows at.

Live shows are gonna be way louder and with more specialized equipment (i guess).

Look for a better philosophy when deciding how to make things "heavy" and "good".

like i said, i'd consider you renegotiate with yourself about your definition of the words you're using to describe what you want in a more realistic context.
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Re: Bass
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2016, 08:25:32 pm »
I don't think my volume level is necessarily the issue. It doesn't seem to affect the drop or anywhere else I have the sub bass. Only where I have the single shot it seems to draw the levels of the rest of the sounds down. As far as the bass drop I'm referring to it's just a bass drop sample that you'd put after a drop or something so when I have that hit it draws the level of my down lifter down and when the sample finishes the volume level of the down lifter rises back up. I don't have the volume levels cranked

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Re: Bass
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2016, 08:39:27 pm »
Disable the limiter/compressor that's probably on your master, that should fix it.

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Re: Bass
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2016, 01:39:47 am »
I don't think my volume level is necessarily the issue. It doesn't seem to affect the drop or anywhere else I have the sub bass. Only where I have the single shot it seems to draw the levels of the rest of the sounds down. As far as the bass drop I'm referring to it's just a bass drop sample that you'd put after a drop or something so when I have that hit it draws the level of my down lifter down and when the sample finishes the volume level of the down lifter rises back up. I don't have the volume levels cranked

I can't decipher what you're talking about. The terminology isn't any thing common or useful :|

What is a down lifter? and how does it go down? and in what context does it go down?

It still smells like that particular "down lifter" is to loud and causing some thing to activate like a limiter or a compressor (don't mix into those things if you have them on your master buss; i also wouldn't recommend mixing into them on a channel either, because if you don't know how it behaves, you could end up getting that pump, and not in the way arnold means it)

If you can come up with better words to describe your situation, maybe i can help some more.

But i'd suggest what wontolla says and see if that does the trick.
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Re: Bass
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2016, 05:06:16 am »
My guess was the playback system too. Quickest way to show us what you're talking about is to render a bit of it out and post it here. :)
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Re: Bass
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2016, 06:40:21 pm »
The problem is with a conflict of all of your low end elements. At that "instant" on the first beat of your drop. You have (I'm assuming) Kick, sidechained bass, "sub drop/downlifter", and other assorted downshifters (while even though they might be white noise they still have a ton of low end energy).

Some tips:
Put a very small fade in on the first kick beat. It will allow the transients of your impacts and downshifters to come through on that first beat. This is done by a lot of prog producers including Jay Hardway, Volt and state, Manse etc...

High pass the white noise downshifters to get the low end out of their samples out of the way.

Make sure your Sub and bass are sidechained hard enough so that they are not conflicting with the kick.

Add a sidechain/lfotool/volumeshaper to your downshifters.


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Re: Bass
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2016, 12:05:53 pm »
that sounds like it's definitely happening because of a limiter or another sort of compressor. try turning it off when you mix if you're using one

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Re: Bass
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2016, 05:16:03 pm »
Just tossing out an idea...

Could it be a frequency clash? He stated it is on that specific hit, and all I could think is that certain frequencies are cancelling others out possibly.
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