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COME AS YOU ARE - Nirvana Remix WIP
« on: April 13, 2016, 09:09:48 pm »
Hi everyone  ;D
This mixdown is a little messy, but I'd really appreciate some feedback or constructive criticism
on the WIP. I've reached a point where I'm not sure where to go with it, and would love an
outside opinion or two from you talented individuals. I'll gladly return any feedback.

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« Last Edit: April 14, 2016, 12:22:33 am by NewPatrol »

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« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2016, 04:48:45 pm »
Hi there. I've just listened to your song, and now I'm going list what I like about it and what I didn't.

Cons:

- The start of the song was a little bit forced.
- The strings that come in at around 0:23 are a little too sudden and overpower the other elements a little.
- The drums could use some work. I'll elaborate:
-- The kick drum is weak and could use a little more presence in the low end. Remember, the kick drum is the guiding force of the song's rhythm so it should cut through the mix.
-- The snare could use a little adjustments. This time I feel like it needs a little more in the mids and a little less in the high end, to give more of a snare feeling. It sounds somewhat like a hip-hop snare, but at the same time it's distracting from the other elements in the song.
-- The hats are just a tiny bit too loud. Not a big issue though, I wouldn't worry about it.
- I know it's still a WIP, but your ending feels slightly unfinished. When you're ending with a melody, it's best that the melody ends on the tonic note. The way you ended the song, the final note creates a lot of unnecessary tension at its close. At least that's what I heard.

Pros:

- The song has nice variation throughout, which keeps it interesting.
- It has a main "idea" that tries to go somewhere.
- The vocals are used in such a way as to hold the song together.

Overall, you're on the right track. Just make some adjustments for mixing/arrangment and make it feel more finished and less rushed.

Also, I know it's not a huge problem, but when posting WIPs, try keeping them on a separate site like https://instaud.io/, https://clyp.it/, or http://picosong.com/. Then keep your finished songs on your SoundCloud. This keeps your work in order and gives you more upload time for your finished works, since you don't have a Pro membership.

One last thing: I'm not a very experienced musician, so if anyone else gives you feedback on this song that contradicts what I've said here, it's very likely that they're right and I'm not.
Oh, and make sure you finish it. Unfinished songs that gather dust don't benefit anyone.

-Annie

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Re: Meep
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2016, 07:06:23 pm »
Hi there. I've just listened to your song, and now I'm going list what I like about it and what I didn't.

This is easily some of the best feedback I've received on a wip :)
I agree with you on almost all counts, but if you could clarify a few things I'd be very appreciative. How is the beginning forced? I think you're
correct, but how would I rectify it? I was thinking potentially waiting a measure or two before introducing the vocals? I'm definitely going to soften
the strings a little, at least at the start. Also, which kick and snare are you referring to? Or all of them? I didn't notice the hats while making it, but
I think you have a good point, they are a little overpowering. Also, as far as the ending is concerned, it's really just a placeholder.

Again, thank you, all incredibly helpful. I'll definitely put some thought into what you've said.

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« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2016, 08:31:20 pm »
I agree with you on almost all counts, but if you could clarify a few things I'd be very appreciative. How is the beginning forced? I think you're
correct, but how would I rectify it? I was thinking potentially waiting a measure or two before introducing the vocals?
  Really, however you rectify the intro is up to you. You could start with just the melody, or just the beat, or the vocals, and then introduce the other elements later with some kind of brief riser. It doesn't have to be a long addition, but 2-4 bars seems like enough. Notice how I said "a little bit". I realize it's just a WIP, but right now I don't think the very beginning of the intro is suitable.

Also, which kick and snare are you referring to? Or all of them?
The kick at 1:49 after the energy drops off is virtually nonexistent compared to the snare and the rest of the elements, which is a little odd, because I thought the kick you had playing right before it was really good. You could do one of three things: 1, keep using the kick you were using before 1:49. If you don't want to kick to go full power after the break, you could try high-passing it. 2, if you want to keep using the kick at 1:49, you need to edit it. EQ would be the most obvious method (I would use this to keep it straightforward), but compression and mixing effects might also help. Just don't overdo it.
Or 3, something that someone else suggests.
As for the snare, it's more of a matter of my taste. I think it sounds a little odd, but it could be because it's disproportionate to the kick. Compared to the kick, it isn't really as much of a problem.

This is easily some of the best feedback I've received on a wip :)
Whoa, thanks. I tried my best.

-Annie

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Re: COME AS YOU ARE - Nirvana Remix WIP
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2016, 03:53:16 am »
Hey, nice progress on this one! I like where you went with the drop. I think the buildup could be stronger, it could use a crescendo on the strings and percussion. And I think the vocal could be a tiny bit louder in that section. Another thing I feel is that the snare is kind of weak for the bigger parts of this track, like 1:50 onwards. Pretty much what AnnieTP said, sounds like a hip hop snare. At least it could use some reverb; you can try automating it so that it's dryer in the first verse.

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Re: COME AS YOU ARE - Nirvana Remix WIP
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2016, 06:27:14 pm »
I think the buildup could be stronger, it could use a crescendo on the strings and percussion.

Thanks, I'll definitely try that, it's just been a bit of a struggle finding a crescendo that goes well with the theme while
not drowning out the rest of the track. I'm working on the snare, and I understand what you guys are saying. Definitely
needs work haha. Thanks for the feedback :)

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