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What big mistakes have you seen novice producers make often, and what tips do you have to help them improve?

This thread is a followup to my (wildly successful) first question thread in which I asked "What are the top three tips that you'd give to a producer with less experience?" This thread managed to receive more than fifty different responses that all offered great insight and advice. If you would like to check out this thread, you may do so here.

I'd love to see what expertise you guys have in store this time. Thanks!
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Re: What are the biggest mistakes you see novice producers commonly make?
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2016, 09:36:36 pm »
What big mistakes have you seen novice producers make often, and what tips do you have to help them improve?

This thread is a followup to my (wildly successful) first question thread in which I asked "What are the top three tips that you'd give to a producer with less experience?" This thread managed to receive more than fifty different responses that all offered great insight and advice. If you would like to check out this thread, you may do so here.

I'd love to see what expertise you guys have in store this time. Thanks!

THAT LIMITER ON THE MASTER IS YOUR ENEMY.

Some default FL projects start with a limiter on the master, with the gain inexplicably cranked to 5dB. That might be why so many tracks have insane amounts of peaking. If it's there, turn it off.

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Re: What are the biggest mistakes you see novice producers commonly make?
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2016, 03:16:19 am »
The following are mistakes I've seen myself make...

1. Don't fall in love with your sounds. Often you'll quickly create a loop, throw a kick drum on there, add some chords, add a bassline... and then you spend the next 2 weeks listening to those sounds over and over while you try to finish the song. This makes those sounds sound "right" to you. But they may not be. Try changing the kick, try changing other parts. When you do it will instantly sound "wrong" because you've grown accustomed to your first choices. But give it a chance and see what really works.

Related, sometimes there's a sound that just doesn't work with the track. It still sounds "right" to you but it's muddying your mix. Don't be afraid to at least consider deleting any track of your project.

2. Don't add an effect to a track unless (a) you understand what it does, (b) you can hear what it does, and (c) it improves the track. It's really easy to get in the habit of adding a compressor to every track, and maybe a saturator, but be sure they're helping your mix, not just adding noise and mud.

3. Don't overdo layering. I used to find 4-5 patches that sounded good for my lead melody, then basically use all 5 of them at various volumes and EQs in the hopes of creating a nice fat sound. I've found layering works much better if you pick one patch that is "almost" what you want the final sound to be, then add 1-3 layers that are subtle but add something to the sound. A layer should be adding something specific, like low-end or high-end or a transient. And like rule #2, if you can't hear a clear improvement when you add a layer... get rid of it.
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Re: What are the biggest mistakes you see novice producers commonly make?
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2016, 07:51:13 am »
Believing that a certain plugin is going to make your tracks sound better.

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Re: What are the biggest mistakes you see novice producers commonly make?
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2016, 10:19:00 am »
focusing on shit that doesnt bring the end result

i would focus on melody making and synthesis cause thats the bulk of the song

and working hard under proper theory

but really, in the end we're all novices
« Last Edit: March 31, 2016, 10:34:22 am by vinceasot »

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Re: What are the biggest mistakes you see novice producers commonly make?
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2016, 10:48:48 am »
Hope this fits mixing/mastering... I'm still a novice in many respects, but there is one "pattern" I've noticed while giving feedback on WIPs. Namely, trying to make a hard hitting bass with these components:
- Reverb in low mid frequencies
- Low mid and bass frequencies as wide as can be

Reverb not only guarantees muddiness, but also removes all the impact from pauses in the bassline. Stereo width tends to move the sound towards whatever is the opposite of "in-your-face". Not saying that everything should be mono, just that it may be easier to achieve the effect you want by limiting the extreme stereo width to high frequencies.

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Re: What are the biggest mistakes you see novice producers commonly make?
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2016, 11:12:03 am »
Too much tools (illegal downloads)

Get to know your stuff and tools you have before you try other things.

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Re: What are the biggest mistakes you see novice producers commonly make?
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2016, 12:32:16 pm »
EQ, levels/mix are vital.  There's not enough "room" for all of your sounds playing all of their sonic characteristics.  Make sure there is a somewhat balanced representation across the frequency spectrum.

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Re: What are the biggest mistakes you see novice producers commonly make?
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2016, 12:40:59 pm »
Reject constructive feedback or take it personally.
Build it, and they will come.

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Re: What are the biggest mistakes you see novice producers commonly make?
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2016, 12:54:11 pm »
Reject constructive feedback or take it personally.

3+ years in and it's still hard not to take criticism personally. Slowly getting to the point where it motivates me to keep working at it though.

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Re: What are the biggest mistakes you see novice producers commonly make?
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2016, 10:08:58 pm »
Not actually developing a sense of self that works towards your life and your production style.

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Re: What are the biggest mistakes you see novice producers commonly make?
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2016, 11:34:28 pm »
Here are two more:

1. Using your brain and eyes instead of using your ears (and heart).
2. Too much time spent 'learning' instead of finishing tracks.
« Last Edit: March 31, 2016, 11:36:13 pm by ZAU »

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Re: What are the biggest mistakes you see novice producers commonly make?
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2016, 10:44:39 am »
People fear failure too much. They don't invest time into meaningless jamming, because it seems like waste of time ... but it's actually what teaches  you the most.
"Earth is round right? Look at it from right angle and you'll be always on top of the world."
...but don't overdo it, because that's called being a d***k.

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Re: What are the biggest mistakes you see novice producers commonly make?
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2016, 01:44:59 pm »
Too much time spent 'learning' instead of finishing tracks.

GUILTY, GUILTY AS CHARGED.  I am the absolute worst at this.

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Re: What are the biggest mistakes you see novice producers commonly make?
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2016, 01:23:25 am »
GUILTY, GUILTY AS CHARGED.

 :'( Me too... but I'm better now!  :)