Author Topic: Limiter and Gate and it's use in EDM! (Read 8081 times)

Przemoemo · « **on:** March 30, 2016, 01:01:42 pm »

Hi guys

I'm into music production for well...2-3 years and I must say I didn't made much progress (you might hear my latest track which I post in "finished tracks" thread). What I realized is that i've never finished any project that would include on any track limiter or gate. That's because I simply don't know what it makes and whenever I've tryied to use it (I tryied on many things , drums , leads , stereo out) it makes my sound worse. So huge request for you guys. Please explain me shortly how limiter and gate works , what are your favourite presets , and how you use it in your tracks. I would really appriciate if any of you gives me hints or show in sound examples how limiter or gate make's your sound better.

Ps.I know that uncle google knows everything , but i belive that I would learn from from here much more (and much faster obviusly) L i m i t e r & G a t e M8!

bryan · « **Reply #1 on:** March 30, 2016, 02:35:33 pm »

Gates and limiters can be used in a variety of functional and creative ways.

Limiters are an extreme form of compression. Any sound that goes over your set threshold will be cut off (eliminated).

Gates are sort of like the opposite of a limiter (although you can use a reverse gate to achieve the same effect). Gates are functionally useful when trying to get rid of background/unwanted noise. Typically, in a gate, you set your threshold so that any sound that is BELOW your threshold will be silenced. This is particularly useful when recording vocals. You don't want the sound of the room/background/ambience - you just want the singer's voice. A gate can help eliminate the ambient buzz when the singer isn't singing.

Limiters can also add volume to your track (at the expense of dynamics).

Gates can be used creatively (google trancegate), too.

Hope this helps.

Przemoemo · « **Reply #2 on:** March 30, 2016, 03:51:58 pm »

Quote from: bryan on March 30, 2016, 02:35:33 pm

Gates and limiters can be used in a variety of functional and creative ways.

Limiters are an extreme form of compression. Any sound that goes over your set threshold will be cut off (eliminated).

Gates are sort of like the opposite of a limiter (although you can use a reverse gate to achieve the same effect). Gates are functionally useful when trying to get rid of background/unwanted noise. Typically, in a gate, you set your threshold so that any sound that is BELOW your threshold will be silenced. This is particularly useful when recording vocals. You don't want the sound of the room/background/ambience - you just want the singer's voice. A gate can help eliminate the ambient buzz when the singer isn't singing.

Limiters can also add volume to your track (at the expense of dynamics).

Gates can be used creatively (google trancegate), too.

Hope this helps.

Yeah, thanks, it helps a lot. But i need to ask you something more like: how works limiter included in cubase for egzample, there is only input, output and release, so there is no threshold so how it works? What's the difference beetween limiter and brickwall limiter (is there any difference?) , also question about stereo out: is it good (worthy) to put limiter on Master Channel or it's rather not important, or maybe it's a huge mistake? Also if I'm asking about such things i have to ask you: what's the difference beetween compressor and multiband compressor?

Wontolla · « **Reply #3 on:** March 30, 2016, 04:12:39 pm »

You could find a lot of these answers by googling them...

Quote from: Przemoemo on March 30, 2016, 03:51:58 pm

how works limiter included in cubase for egzample, there is only input, output and release, so there is no threshold so how it works?

If it doesn't say, the threshold is probably 0dB.

Quote from: Przemoemo on March 30, 2016, 03:51:58 pm

What's the difference beetween limiter and brickwall limiter (is there any difference?)

It's a limiter used to "brickwall" the audio (ie make the waveform look like a brick wall; everything close to 0dB)

Quote from: Przemoemo on March 30, 2016, 03:51:58 pm

is it good (worthy) to put limiter on Master Channel

Only while you're mastering it, and even then it's questionable whether you even need it. Some people put a limiter on the master and crank the gain because they don't know any other way to make it loud. Don't be like that.

Przemoemo · « **Reply #4 on:** March 30, 2016, 05:03:47 pm »

Quote from: Wontolla on March 30, 2016, 04:12:39 pm

You could find a lot of these answers by googling them...
Quote from: Przemoemo on March 30, 2016, 03:51:58 pm
how works limiter included in cubase for egzample, there is only input, output and release, so there is no threshold so how it works?
If it doesn't say, the threshold is probably 0dB.
Quote from: Przemoemo on March 30, 2016, 03:51:58 pm
What's the difference beetween limiter and brickwall limiter (is there any difference?)
It's a limiter used to "brickwall" the audio (ie make the waveform look like a brick wall; everything close to 0dB)
Quote from: Przemoemo on March 30, 2016, 03:51:58 pm
is it good (worthy) to put limiter on Master Channel
Only while you're mastering it, and even then it's questionable whether you even need it. Some people put a limiter on the master and crank the gain because they don't know any other way to make it loud. Don't be like that.

thanks a lot for answers

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