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Electro Drop / Mixing tips? (◕‿◕)
« on: March 16, 2016, 06:58:52 pm »
im working in this drop. I would rather to know any suggestions about mixing and problems that you detect. I apreciate so much any answer, thanks in advance! :

https://soundcloud.com/apeidon/mango-remix6
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Re: Electro Drop / Mixing tips? (◕‿◕)
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2016, 08:59:19 pm »
seems a little too compressed, maybe just my taste though. Could use some quiet moments in between 0:00 and 0:16, to create more contrast. Also needs more bass :D

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Re: Electro Drop / Mixing tips? (◕‿◕)
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2016, 03:26:35 pm »
seems a little too compressed, maybe just my taste though. Could use some quiet moments in between 0:00 and 0:16, to create more contrast. Also needs more bass :D
Yes, definetly i have to make some variations it will be more interesting, it already has a bass layer with distortion etc, i should experiment with the mixing to stand out the bass, thanks for the opinión! <=
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Re: Electro Drop / Mixing tips? (◕‿◕)
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2016, 03:48:39 pm »
Yea it sounds over-compressed / over-limited.  Do you have a limiter on the master?

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Re: Electro Drop / Mixing tips? (◕‿◕)
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2016, 05:44:59 pm »
Yea it sounds over-compressed / over-limited.  Do you have a limiter on the master?
yea im using ozone 5 and the maximizer option and fabfilter-L, im trying to fixing now, the problem when i produce is that i have a very low cpu and it makes that horrible "clicking sound" when cpu is at 100% and it is such a pain working like this but anyway, im using limiters too in individual channels, could that be a problem too? im using it in almost all the synths
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Re: Electro Drop / Mixing tips? (◕‿◕)
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2016, 07:04:55 pm »
oh yeah that is a common mistake when you are first starting, the best way to use compression is as little as possible, only use it when you need it.  If any channels are clipping lower the channels that are going into the group/bus or lower the individual sound.  A limiter is mainly used at the very end of a mastering chain to make the final gain increase without clipping (going over 0 dB).  If an individual sound needs it, compress it.  At your group level or bus level compressors are typically used lightly to "glue" the elements together, or to control peaks and achieve a higher RMS value.  You are basically doing the same thing with your limiters however they are much more aggressive and can kill your dynamic range.  Mix your track as well as you can and make it as loud as you can with nothing on the master channel.  If you can achieve this your track will sound very good when it goes to get compressed in the mastering stage, you will achieve commercial level loudness without having to push your track too hard and killing the dynamics.

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Re: Electro Drop / Mixing tips? (◕‿◕)
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2016, 10:15:50 pm »
oh yeah that is a common mistake when you are first starting, the best way to use compression is as little as possible, only use it when you need it.  If any channels are clipping lower the channels that are going into the group/bus or lower the individual sound.  A limiter is mainly used at the very end of a mastering chain to make the final gain increase without clipping (going over 0 dB).  If an individual sound needs it, compress it.  At your group level or bus level compressors are typically used lightly to "glue" the elements together, or to control peaks and achieve a higher RMS value.  You are basically doing the same thing with your limiters however they are much more aggressive and can kill your dynamic range.  Mix your track as well as you can and make it as loud as you can with nothing on the master channel.  If you can achieve this your track will sound very good when it goes to get compressed in the mastering stage, you will achieve commercial level loudness without having to push your track too hard and killing the dynamics.
Actually i know that xD, but ive seen people using limiters and i wanted to prove it, i guess if i dont know exactly what im doing i shouldnt compress the sounds too much, in fact i think that a controlled clipping many times is even better than compression, thank you for take your time and give me that long explanation, really apreciate it, cheers!
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Re: Electro Drop / Mixing tips? (◕‿◕)
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2016, 06:54:10 pm »
Take it easy on the compressors / limiters / clipping. There are literally no dynamics.

You don't alwasy need to compress absolutely everything, and when you do a master compression / clipping / limiting the compression will just multiply and fuck shit up.

Ask yourself if a sound needs compressing, more than often some sounds do not need any compressing necessarily.


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Re: Electro Drop / Mixing tips? (◕‿◕)
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2016, 03:08:17 pm »
Take it easy on the compressors / limiters / clipping. There are literally no dynamics.

You don't alwasy need to compress absolutely everything, and when you do a master compression / clipping / limiting the compression will just multiply and fuck shit up.

Ask yourself if a sound needs compressing, more than often some sounds do not need any compressing necessarily.
you're absolutely right, i need to think in a more coherent way when i mix, thanks for the advice! :D
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Re: Electro Drop / Mixing tips? (◕‿◕)
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2016, 04:15:10 pm »
Take it easy on the compressors / limiters / clipping. There are literally no dynamics.

You don't alwasy need to compress absolutely everything, and when you do a master compression / clipping / limiting the compression will just multiply and fuck shit up.

Ask yourself if a sound needs compressing, more than often some sounds do not need any compressing necessarily.
you're absolutely right, i need to think in a more coherent way when i mix, thanks for the advice! :D

Its good you fix it now, about a year or so ago I started to only use compressors on my busses or on a specific sound that really needed it.   My premasters have gone up in quality a lot, try to fix sounds at the source and then if you need to EQ do it.