Too much layering gives you all sorts of phasing issues that lead to a thinner sound. Its counter-intuitive. If you want to layer, layer in mono.

Quote from: Marrow Machines on March 13, 2016, 05:11:00 pm

Don't underestimate the power of the channel fader, eq, and panning...

Totally agree here. I view these as core fundamental mixing tools that should be learned first and used liberally to get a 90% solution. Tools like compressors, stereo imagers, and saturators can get you that last 10%, but can also really set a sound back if used improperly. Unfortunately it seems a lot of beginning producers jump straight to the advanced stuff and usually mangle what would be a decent track in the process because they read online to do this or that to "make it sound better".

Bird up bro.

I use EQs on every channel and on the groups as well.
I'm still getting into compression and have been using it a lot more in my new projects.
What I'd like to know now is that is an EQ on a group useful if all the sounds of the group have been EQ-ed individually?

i find it best to leave the eq off of the group. In a way you're almost treating the groups kind of like a master channel.

You may think you're doing a good thing by eqing the group, but in reality you have less control because you're involving an entire section. Individual elements inside of the group, may not need what you're applying to the group. if you think about it like managing people, you can get more results if you spend the necessary time with each person and improving them instead of just picking apart the group. The group is made up on the individual people. the strength of the group comes from the individual strength.

I use grouping more as an organizational tool and stereo width control (either all up mono or all up stereo;i control the individual width of the group's components).

I will say that all my tracks/groups eventually run into a pre master where that has a filter at the lowest and highest setting. But that gets bipassed with my pre and post settings on the effects, but the dry signal is nice and tamed as well as my bus effects.