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Progressive House Track - Looking For Feedback
« on: February 27, 2016, 06:24:39 am »
Hey guys so I'm about 20 hours into this track. Most of that time has been spent struggling with the mix. I showed it to a friend and he suggested that the bass end was funky. My ears are way to fatigued to be able to tell so I would desperately appreciate some feedback on both the notes, and the mix.

NOTICE: 1:45-2:00 IS NOT PART OF THE ARRANGEMENT/MIX

I wrote it to get down the idea for the chorus but it's not mixed or arranged properly at all. Everything else I would appreciate if you guys could give it a listen. :)

https://clyp.it/nnqiu1a2
« Last Edit: February 27, 2016, 08:55:36 am by Lydian »
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Re: Progressive House Track - Looking For Feedback
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2016, 02:03:17 am »
Definitely is more progressive trance and it sounds great! Since its a baseline I wont judge the master as I'm assuming you know it needs an overhaul. Progression is nice. Synths are solid. Chording is great as well. Like it so far! Keep going. I love progressive house/trance especially when it's done uniquely and well, and so far you have a great start!
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Re: Progressive House Track - Looking For Feedback
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2016, 06:32:22 am »
Quote from: Cor Sicarius on February 28, 2016, 02:03:17 am
Definitely is more progressive trance and it sounds great! Since its a baseline I wont judge the master as I'm assuming you know it needs an overhaul. Progression is nice. Synths are solid. Chording is great as well. Like it so far! Keep going. I love progressive house/trance especially when it's done uniquely and well, and so far you have a great start!

Just wanted to thank you for checking the track out. :) I love trance so I don't mind what you call it. I took everything off of my master chain before I uploaded it so yes the waveform is quite wimpy! I'm trying my best to finish it up. ^.^
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Re: Progressive House Track - Looking For Feedback
« Reply #3 on: February 29, 2016, 05:24:01 pm »
The breakdown is beautiful musically. Would be cool to hear it with something like a chamber orchestra, but that might be too expensive! And you're on the right track with the chorus as well.

I have a few comments regarding mostly sounds:
- Might be cool if the "banjo" evolved somehow during the intro - a filter sweep or something
- The click of the kick is too loud, sounds almost like the metronome was left on!
- Ride sounds toyish, I would change that sample (check out http://www.michaelkingston.fi/kingstondrums/easyrider.html), maybe give some life to it by varying velocities (and samples maybe), and also pan it more to one side, and maybe add reverb.
- The one-note riser is not very effective to me, maybe some FM riser might be better. Or sidechaining it to the kick and adjusting the panning might also help. Now it just sounds like a lead that's never in tune!
- That boom kick in breakdown should be louder
- The breakdown needs more layers/pads/atmospheric stuff to keep it interesting. The string sound alone sounds a bit dull.

Would like to hear a louder version next time, so that I don't have to crank my volume knob :P
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Re: Progressive House Track - Looking For Feedback
« Reply #4 on: February 29, 2016, 08:10:26 pm »
Quote from: Arktopolis on February 29, 2016, 05:24:01 pm
The breakdown is beautiful musically. Would be cool to hear it with something like a chamber orchestra, but that might be too expensive! And you're on the right track with the chorus as well.

I have a few comments regarding mostly sounds:
- Might be cool if the "banjo" evolved somehow during the intro - a filter sweep or something
- The click of the kick is too loud, sounds almost like the metronome was left on!
- Ride sounds toyish, I would change that sample (check out http://www.michaelkingston.fi/kingstondrums/easyrider.html), maybe give some life to it by varying velocities (and samples maybe), and also pan it more to one side, and maybe add reverb.
- The one-note riser is not very effective to me, maybe some FM riser might be better. Or sidechaining it to the kick and adjusting the panning might also help. Now it just sounds like a lead that's never in tune!
- That boom kick in breakdown should be louder
- The breakdown needs more layers/pads/atmospheric stuff to keep it interesting. The string sound alone sounds a bit dull.

Would like to hear a louder version next time, so that I don't have to crank my volume knob :P

Thanks so much Arktopolis for your feedback. :)

I've lowered the transient on the click drum since I posted this up a few days ago. I was also concerned about it being too loud. The funny thing is that the "banjo" is actually a synth but now that you mention it the sound does seem like a needs a bit more variation. I agree with the boom kick as well being too quiet. I actually added ambience/atmosphere into the breakdown since I've posted this as well. :D

I should also note that there is going to be more vocals. I only did a quick take to see whether my sisters vocals would be right for the track. :O

As far as the ride goes the reason why it might sound toyish is because like you said there's not any variation in velocity and no panning so it has that "red robin" effect. Maybe a little bit of reverb will help it blend in more with the mix though.

The riser isn't sidechained atm so maybe I'll do that and see how it affects the mix.


I took off the mastering chain before I uploaded this which is why it's to quiet so sorry for making you crank your volume knob.. :P
« Last Edit: February 29, 2016, 08:16:55 pm by Lydian »
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Re: Progressive House Track - Looking For Feedback
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2016, 06:44:36 pm »
Reaallllyyyy dig the breakdown. It is fantastic musically. I would definitely add more to it. More layers. More sounds. Add a melody for a hook and maybe an arpeggiator as well to add some life / depth. The vocals could pop more as well. My biggest suggestion for that would be to look into parallel processing. You can achieve amazing things when you add a few quiet but extreme layers to something like a vocal track. Compress the fuck out of one layer and add in just a little bit of it. Add tons of reverb but fade it in and out to add space. You've got a lot of potential with this on Lydian. Happy to see you making progress with your musical endeavors :)
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Re: Progressive House Track - Looking For Feedback
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2016, 10:07:43 pm »
Quote from: KLANG on March 01, 2016, 06:44:36 pm
Reaallllyyyy dig the breakdown. It is fantastic musically. I would definitely add more to it. More layers. More sounds. Add a melody for a hook and maybe an arpeggiator as well to add some life / depth. The vocals could pop more as well. My biggest suggestion for that would be to look into parallel processing. You can achieve amazing things when you add a few quiet but extreme layers to something like a vocal track. Compress the fuck out of one layer and add in just a little bit of it. Add tons of reverb but fade it in and out to add space. You've got a lot of potential with this on Lydian. Happy to see you making progress with your musical endeavors :)

Thanks for listening Klang. :) I've listened to your works on soundcloud and really enjoyed everything that I heard as well. I was scratching my head wondering how you managed to get so good in such a short amount of time. I really dig that "spacey" atmosphere you manage to create in a lot of your tracks. It's a similar sound that I'm trying to aim for but I'm still a work in progress.

I just came up with the main hook 30 minutes ago. Can't wait to get it recorded and to finally give a name to the track. :)

I'm not to familiar with parallel processing on vocals. I've used it on some synths for things like parallel compression or parallel eqing but never really experimented enough with it admittingly. I haven't quite yet figured out what else I'm going to add to the breakdown. It definitely sounds empty and needs more effects/ambience but right now I'm just trying to finish up with the arrangement. Once I revisit the breakdown I'm definitely going to add in some more elements.
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Re: Progressive House Track - Looking For Feedback
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2016, 09:56:38 pm »
Yea the mixing of the bass needs work.  If you listen to your track from another room, or even in another part of your room, it will give you a fresh perspective on the mix of your bass compared to the rest of the track.  It helps me a lot when my ears get fatigued.

Also, the kick is lacking low end punch.  The overall low end is lacking now that I think about it. as a result there is nothing driving or carrying the track.

The snare buildup is hardly building any tension, i understand this is a WIP though.

One of the most important things in mixing your track is getting the kick/bass relationship just right.  We all struggle with it

good job on the track overall, i really like the vibe  ;) keep working
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Re: Progressive House Track - Looking For Feedback
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2016, 11:59:27 pm »
Thanks for the feedback alan. I've worked on the mix quite a bit since I've first posted this WIP and I'm happy to say that there is some more low end in the newer version.

I hope to post it in the finished tracked section sometime next week. Pretty sick of listening to it at this point. (47 hours into it)

The mix is noticeably better but is still not perfect which I've come to accept. Working on this for so long is making me impatient. Ready to move onto the next track already! ^.^
« Last Edit: March 06, 2016, 01:22:21 am by Lydian »
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Re: Progressive House Track - Looking For Feedback
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2016, 07:45:16 pm »
Dude, you're telling me? I've been working on my latest track for about 3 months now..I have a big problem with completing tracks, mainly because I am always learning so my idea of "finished" feels never ending >.<

Im looking forward to the updated version. theres so many melodies that pop into my head when I listen to this that would take this track to a new level, haha. 
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