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Question Regarding Frequency Tone Response
« on: February 23, 2016, 07:22:02 pm »
Hey so I use ableton live, and I wanted to test out my frequency hearing range. I had normal hearing 20hz - 20,000hz but I had to turn up the volume to hear the higher frequencies better. Another day I tested it, and I could only hear up to 14,500hz, and later that day I could hear up to 20,000hz fine again...
So I'm wondering if this is an issue with my ears (fatigue?) or my windows 7 laptop being inconsistent at emitting frequencies.

I tested with and without headphones. I use Bose ae2, and I'm 18 years old

p.s. sorry if this is the wrong section to post this, idk where it would fit ;X

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Re: Question Regarding Frequency Tone Response
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2016, 12:45:22 am »
A few things: Make sure there is no filter on the pure sine wave you're using, whether in the synth or in the DAW.  Make sure your headphones are rated for 20kHz+. Otherwise, it won't matter how high the synth emits sounds.  Use a frequency analyzer (Spectrum in ableton) to visualize the sound to help your ears and confirm the sound. 

Hopefully this helps.

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Re: Question Regarding Frequency Tone Response
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2016, 01:20:56 am »
A few things: Make sure there is no filter on the pure sine wave you're using, whether in the synth or in the DAW.  Make sure your headphones are rated for 20kHz+. Otherwise, it won't matter how high the synth emits sounds.  Use a frequency analyzer (Spectrum in ableton) to visualize the sound to help your ears and confirm the sound. 

Hopefully this helps.
it's not a synth, they have a tone generator in the option window.

You do need to increase the volume to hear the higher frequencies, just because they have a faster vibration and aren't as prominent as the lower frequencies.

Check out waves and amplitudes.

If you're really concern, go to a doctor, but it seems like it's pretty normal.

http://plasticity.szynalski.com/tone-generator.htm

I used this thing and at like 9760hz, my right ear picks up more than the left.

14132hz is where my left ear picks up more than my right ear.

past the 9760hz, on it's way to 14132hz, the tones shift to the middle then at around 11686hz, is when i get both ears to sound relatively the same volume.

Probably a little biased towards the right.

I was also at volume level of 9% the whole time. 16134hz is where i have to crank up the volume 100%. I think that's also my tinnitus range.

the volume percentages were based off the site.

I think that's pretty ok, i mean, i don't know how symmetrical my ears should be, with some digging i found that each ear picks up different things. Right is more speech oriented and left is more musically oriented.

our faces aren't symmetrical, so i am not sure other than to go see a doctor if you're concerned.

http://www.healthyhearing.com/report/43310-Ten-signs-of-hearing

i've also seen quite a few of these things pop up over the search.

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Re: Question Regarding Frequency Tone Response
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2016, 01:46:55 am »
A few things: Make sure there is no filter on the pure sine wave you're using, whether in the synth or in the DAW.  Make sure your headphones are rated for 20kHz+. Otherwise, it won't matter how high the synth emits sounds.  Use a frequency analyzer (Spectrum in ableton) to visualize the sound to help your ears and confirm the sound. 

Hopefully this helps.
it's not a synth, they have a tone generator in the option window.

You do need to increase the volume to hear the higher frequencies, just because they have a faster vibration and aren't as prominent as the lower frequencies.

Check out waves and amplitudes.

If you're really concern, go to a doctor, but it seems like it's pretty normal.

http://plasticity.szynalski.com/tone-generator.htm

I used this thing and at like 9760hz, my right ear picks up more than the left.

14132hz is where my left ear picks up more than my right ear.

past the 9760hz, on it's way to 14132hz, the tones shift to the middle then at around 11686hz, is when i get both ears to sound relatively the same volume.

Probably a little biased towards the right.

I was also at volume level of 9% the whole time. 16134hz is where i have to crank up the volume 100%. I think that's also my tinnitus range.

the volume percentages were based off the site.

I think that's pretty ok, i mean, i don't know how symmetrical my ears should be, with some digging i found that each ear picks up different things. Right is more speech oriented and left is more musically oriented.

our faces aren't symmetrical, so i am not sure other than to go see a doctor if you're concerned.

http://www.healthyhearing.com/report/43310-Ten-signs-of-hearing

i've also seen quite a few of these things pop up over the search.

Hmm I see, yeah I've read a lot of these. I mean if I heard the 20,000HZ range once before and many other times, then I guess I'm all gud right? I just don't know why other times I couldn't hear that high, + I don't want to test again bcz I'm pretty sure its bad for my hearing and such even if I can't hear it. So yeah, I'm good?

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Re: Question Regarding Frequency Tone Response
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2016, 02:28:17 am »
Hmm I see, yeah I've read a lot of these. I mean if I heard the 20,000HZ range once before and many other times, then I guess I'm all gud right? I just don't know why other times I couldn't hear that high, + I don't want to test again bcz I'm pretty sure its bad for my hearing and such even if I can't hear it. So yeah, I'm good?

just understand the limitations of human hearing, and understand the fault in your own ears.

You will have hearing loss as you get older, so protect them as much as you can.

Know this, the guy who did the beach boy was deaf in one ear....

That should tell you something.

do a once over with that tone generator, but keep it in perspective of what you can hear comfortably rather than 'YEA I CAN GET TO 20KHZ ALL DAY ERRY DAY". That wasn't a shot, but, you could be forcing yourself to hear something that's on the cusps of the range that humans hear.


lol, you definitely get dull after age, but you gain better ways of listening.
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Re: Question Regarding Frequency Tone Response
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2016, 02:43:22 am »
Yeah, don't worry about it too much. When you were little, you were able to hear even 22k without even knowing it. :) It will go down with age. 20-20k are just two nice numbers they've chosen to describe human hearing. It just so happens that you're at the age when it fits perfectly. I'm 26 and I'm pretty much dead on 17k. (having to crank up the volume on 16.5k to hear it at least a bit)

But in real world, highest sound you're gonna work with during music production (harmonics of hihats) are around 12-14k. So no worry. :)

Edit: Oh and also, few years back, I watched a tv report about this with my mom, around 45 at the time. She also stopped around 17k ...so I think it doesn't fall of in a stable pace.   
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Re: Question Regarding Frequency Tone Response
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2016, 04:20:24 am »
Hmm thanks guys, yeah I was just a little worried. Like right now I'm trying and once again I can only hear up to 14,500hz, but I guess this is only a sensativity issue?