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Basslines like this? (Electro/Trance)
« on: February 21, 2016, 09:49:54 pm »
I can write melodies and musical drops all day but still struggle to get really nice tight punchy bass lines.

https://youtu.be/I3mzEpdJhak?list=RD4bwjlC_aIwk

Love alot of Norin & Rads stuff.

Sounds like its a bunch of samples put together, sounds like theres some sort of wobble on the sub but hard to hear.

Anyone whos better at this kind of stuff got any tips?



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Re: Basslines like this? (Electro/Trance)
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2016, 10:41:03 pm »
You might want to have a wobble with a filter on top of your wobble.

You'd need the LFO for the wobble, then some kind of high cut(not shelf) on an eq or a filter high cut to get that muffled warmth sound.

It reminds me of a P bass with black magic foam being picked.

you can probably add in some analogue distortion, but filter it and bias it towards the top end, so you may need to duplicate or split the signals to achieve this result. or the distortion can be placed before your filter that controls the muffled sound. either way, i think you might need to be splitting signals here. Parallel signal from the main, parallel has the high end distortion, then grouped with the high cut.
« Last Edit: February 21, 2016, 10:42:51 pm by Marrow Machines »
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Re: Basslines like this? (Electro/Trance)
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2016, 11:26:59 pm »
hey luke bond

the first is the main bass playing that typical anjuna bass that repeats itself, its off one note i think

the 2nd one is that poppy sound, that fills the empty space that the first main bass had

thats what i think..

i've seen this a lot in the big room stuff

there is a lot of layering and sidechaining

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Re: Basslines like this? (Electro/Trance)
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2016, 10:31:03 am »
To me it sounds like two basslines. First two notes might be something saw-based with several voices, sub, with quite open filter and EQ'd out midend. Second one is more interesting. Quite filtered, it plays sequence of several notes per chord and it sounds to me like some clever gliding/pitch envelope is happening there.

Also cool trick they used: Notice how the first bas is waaay wider than the second one. That's how you supposed to use stereo width. Not to make everything freaking wide, as lot of people like to do here, slapping stereo widener on every poor thing. That becomes just a "big mono" nonsense. This is the right way. The difference is what you notice. :)
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Re: Basslines like this? (Electro/Trance)
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2016, 10:51:08 am »
Still a noob to this kind of stuff myself, but it definitely sounds like a combo of multiple samples/bass synths. One part (the wobble?) sounds like it could be a 100% wet reverbed kick. And then there's a low-passed drill-like (FM I'd guess) bass at the end of the phrase with probably a tiny bit of bitcrushing.

E: I'll continue, since I realized you weren't really asking "how to make this sound". I agree with Farley that keeping the stereo image narrow in the basses is important. Another thing is that there's a lot of silence between the bass notes, and not many instruments are playing at the same time. The contrasts really contribute to the punchiness.
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Re: Basslines like this? (Electro/Trance)
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2016, 09:47:17 am »
Dimitri made a nice overview how such bassline is done

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6hGg8m7Ex8

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Re: Basslines like this? (Electro/Trance)
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2016, 11:30:04 am »

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Re: Basslines like this? (Electro/Trance)
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2016, 07:45:17 pm »
Dimitri made a nice overview how such bassline is done

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6hGg8m7Ex8

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@Arktopolis I don't understand why he should start new thread if I understood you well. That's helpful link.

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Re: Basslines like this? (Electro/Trance)
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2016, 08:08:54 pm »
@Arktopolis I don't understand why he should start new thread if I understood you well. That's helpful link.

Nah, I meant that the video was so spot on that it concludes the discussion :D Just trying to be funny.

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Re: Basslines like this? (Electro/Trance)
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2016, 08:31:08 pm »
Ok ;) BTW I'm not native englisch speaker as wel as my english is quite average i would say ;). Back in the topic dmitry(aka Dpooga) knows what he does. Recently he even released the song on anjunabeats(that was remix).

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Re: Basslines like this? (Electro/Trance)
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2016, 10:18:13 pm »
Haha thanks for the kind words, and for posting my video!  I think N&R basslines are awesome, and I've been really inspired by that type of sound myself.  From what I've heard, Bruce uses a lot of samples, so it's a matter of combining sounds that fit well together and processing them accordingly.  I've shown my method in that video, and even though it may seem overly complicated, I still do it that way.  Basically, I start by loading a bunch of samples and/or synths to cover the following categories: "farts" (for the lack of a better word, haha) - for continuous notes, "stabs" for building the groove, FX for filling up the gaps (could be reverb tails, etc), sub bass, and a few percussion hits to accentuate some bass notes.  Once I have these categories loaded up, I start building the groove by placing those sounds where they need to be (according to some initial idea that might be playing in my head), and move them around until it sounds good. Some 20 versions later, this may turn into a decent bassline, or go to trash.

And yes, that DeVas bassline is really good!  I think they have a pitched-down sub bass note in there which gives it that wobble effect.  Really nice work on the sub overall.  Also check out some recent Fatum tracks (Tryst, Take Me Back, Hold On remix), they all have immense basslines!

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Re: Basslines like this? (Electro/Trance)
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2016, 02:41:36 pm »
And yes, that DeVas bassline is really good!  I think they have a pitched-down sub bass note in there which gives it that wobble effect.  Really nice work on the sub overall.  Also check out some recent Fatum tracks (Tryst, Take Me Back, Hold On remix), they all have immense basslines!

Tritonal is one of my favorites with such type bassline.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX-mwDcm4Mw


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Re: Basslines like this? (Electro/Trance)
« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2016, 01:12:09 pm »
I am no pro, but will try to put a project together to give you an idea. Which DAW are you using? I can do Ableton or FL Studio

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Re: Basslines like this? (Electro/Trance)
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2016, 04:43:32 pm »
In my case I would like to fl studio one  :)

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Re: Basslines like this? (Electro/Trance)
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2016, 09:05:55 am »
I am no pro, but will try to put a project together to give you an idea. Which DAW are you using? I can do Ableton or FL Studio
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Also, Dmitry's video was very helpful to me a while back as well.
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