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Electronic Music Instrumentation/Arrangement
« on: February 15, 2016, 06:06:21 am »
For those of you who are old fashioned and start off your music/songs on a guitar/piano how do you approach instrumentation when it comes to electronic music?

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« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2016, 11:17:30 am »
always start with the piano and the melody because its the melody and composition that makes the track

then you need synths for the melody, layering, sidechainig, all that stuff

then the drums and effects,

arranging, mixdowns, mastering

easier said than done but thats how i go about it

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« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2016, 11:25:31 am »
My lead melodies usually start as a piano. Just because it's a "neutral" sound and if I don't like something about the melody on piano, I probably won't like it with some amazing synth noise.

After I like it, I pull up Synthmaster, Massive, or Hybrid and start flipping through presets. Once I find one that sounds half-decent, I modify it to fit the track better (remove effects, shorten the decay, add filtering, etc.)
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« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2016, 01:55:49 am »
For those of you who are old fashioned and start off your music/songs on a guitar/piano how do you approach instrumentation when it comes to electronic music?

Madeon must be "old fashioned" then because he starts all his songs with a piano

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« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2016, 02:32:02 am »
I end up making piano music if i start my song with a piano.

For me, the most challenging part was actually creating the sounds to not make them sound so cheese. I spent quite a few years trying my hand at different techniques in sound. from growl basses to more analogue inspired, i kind of lost myself in that part of electronic music.

I've been circling back with my new chops and started to realize the music again.

If you know what you're bad at, work on that for a while until you realize "oh i am not making music any more" lol. it might take you some talking to with friends to realize that.

If you have the musical chops down, then the sounds might be getting in the way. Because, dance music doesn't haaaave to be that complicated.

but the sound from an instrument is, to me, just as important as the notes you choose to play with that sound.
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« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2016, 07:51:39 am »
Madeon must be "old fashioned" then because he starts all his songs with a piano

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I end up making piano music if i start my song with a piano.

For me, the most challenging part was actually creating the sounds to not make them sound so cheese. I spent quite a few years trying my hand at different techniques in sound. from growl basses to more analogue inspired, i kind of lost myself in that part of electronic music.

I've been circling back with my new chops and started to realize the music again.

If you know what you're bad at, work on that for a while until you realize "oh i am not making music any more" lol. it might take you some talking to with friends to realize that.

If you have the musical chops down, then the sounds might be getting in the way. Because, dance music doesn't haaaave to be that complicated.

but the sound from an instrument is, to me, just as important as the notes you choose to play with that sound.

Fair enough. I've often been underestimating just how important instrumentation is when it comes to the notes. There's a definite gap between my skill level that I need to work on in regards to that.

My lead melodies usually start as a piano. Just because it's a "neutral" sound and if I don't like something about the melody on piano, I probably won't like it with some amazing synth noise.

After I like it, I pull up Synthmaster, Massive, or Hybrid and start flipping through presets. Once I find one that sounds half-decent, I modify it to fit the track better (remove effects, shorten the decay, add filtering, etc.)

Yes! That's the exact same way I feel about it! The only difference being that I don't use presets. I prefer to recreate the instrumentation in my imagination with instruments/textures that I've memorized. It can get hard to do this though with sounds that I haven't yet internalized in my head.

always start with the piano and the melody because its the melody and composition that makes the track

then you need synths for the melody, layering, sidechainig, all that stuff

then the drums and effects,

arranging, mixdowns, mastering

easier said than done but thats how i go about it

I agree that the melody, harmony, and composition definitely make the track for me. I go about it in a similar fashion. Definitely easier said than done!  :)
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« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2016, 07:35:05 am »
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« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2016, 07:40:04 am »
For those of you who are old fashioned and start off your music/songs on a guitar/piano how do you approach instrumentation when it comes to electronic music?


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« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2016, 09:21:54 am »
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« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2016, 10:13:18 am »
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« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2016, 08:12:44 am »
I almost never start on piano,or touch the keyboard for electronic music.I did it once or twice in like 4 years and it was because i did an impro on my nord lead that i had to write down.

But that's probably because i spent a lot of time improvising on piano some years ago and i can hear the progression and right notes to chose when i write it on sequencer.

Its about developing musical science and instinct,the inner musical Ear.Improvisation help that a lot as you have to choose the next note LIVE right now and make quick decisions.So your musical sense become more accute.

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« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2016, 08:29:25 am »
I almost never start on piano,or touch the keyboard for electronic music.I did it once or twice in like 4 years and it was because i did an impro on my nord lead that i had to write down.

But that's probably because i spent a lot of time improvising on piano some years ago and i can hear the progression and right notes to chose when i write it on sequencer.

Its about developing musical science and instinct,the inner musical Ear.Improvisation help that a lot as you have to choose the next note LIVE right now and make quick decisions.So your musical sense become more acute.


Awesome! :D I love improvising on everything. (Especially piano)
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