Author Topic: Track(s) analysis: heavy music [mostly applies to rock, but maybe to EDM too?]  (Read 5864 times)

Nadav

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I have a metal-head friend and we disagree about what makes a song heavy. To me, most metal isn't heavy--it sounds wishy washy and/or whiny. The stuff I find heavy is usually in genres like "alternative" or "hard rock" or sometimes "alt metal".

Here is one of the heaviest songs I can think of (by one of my favorite bands): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzHZrts808c I think the heaviness drops off after about 0:55, but still pretty heavy.

What I think makes the song stand out as especially heavy:
  • It breaks key a lot.
  • The vocals are delivered in an aggressive style, but they're sung, not screamed, and the vocalist doesn't sound like a kid.
  • There's lots of dynamic change--the drummer moves around his instrument and uses its full spectrum of output, there are ample moments of silence that punctuate really loud sounds, etc.
  • Some more stuff I can't think of now but will remember later...
But I wonder if it's also partly in the production? Kurt Cobain allegedly produced that album, though I'm skeptical he's really responsible for its sonic quality. For a better example of how production can make a song sound even heavier, I submit two examples, both produced by living legends (and both written and performed by some of my other favorite bands  ;)).

Terry Date: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLZBhlTXHuo Something about the way the drums are mixed--especially the kick and snare--just hits me in the chest every time, whether I'm listening on laptop speakers, earbuds, in my car, or on studio monitors.

Butch Vig: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ugio4fFSLFQ Here again the drums are just brutal, but then so is the rest of the mix. But note that it's still very clean and polished--Butch Vig at his finest.

So, use your producer's ears AND your theory heads and let me know what you think. How do these guys get that incredibly heavy sound?

Nadav

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Here are more songs I think are very heavy, for reference:

[ARTIST - song]
SLAYER - Gemini (interestingly, I don't find any of their other stuff very heavy)
SOUNDGARDEN - Loud Love (just the bridge)
PRONG - Test
HELMET - Ironhead

There are some younger bands making heavy music too...
DEFTONES - Engine No. 9
CHEVELLE - Tug-O-War

(At least a couple of the aforementioned songs are from albums produced by...Terry Date! Apparently he knows how to produce "Heavy"?)

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I don't really think it's practical to use the word heavy. It's a word that hardly even has a definition nowadays due to the subjective nature of language. Heavy music can be pretty broad.

Those songs may seem heavy to you but this is probably the heaviest I can actually enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilBOMbvICuc

I'm not much for screams but as long as it's mixed with singing and something melodic I can really get into stuff. For some people heavy is chugging on a low string in drop B. Nowadays though you have guys kinda redefining the direction of heavy metal by using 8 string guitars. No longer any need to drop tune guitars with an extra 2 bass strings.

Then there's vocals and drums... Honestly... you can blast beat to hell and scream the entire track and for some people that can be heavy. Not really very appealing to me but since no one else on this forum seems to have taken an interest in your post I might as well try to get something going. We need some more rock guys over here.
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