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sage

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Serum Modulating Pitch Like Massive
« on: February 12, 2016, 03:19:38 am »
Since all of Serum's parameters are based off of percentage, I cannot see a way to modulate pitch by exact semitones like you can in Massive.

Am I incorrect? or is the pitch wheel the only way to achieve this?
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Re: Serum Modulating Pitch Like Massive
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2016, 04:15:26 am »
What DAW are you using? You could always create an automation clip for the root and then create a seperate automation while bent to the note you want to bent to, copy the percentage of the pitch bend, and insert it in the original automation clip.

But as for specifically in Serum? I'm not sure what you mean. The pitch bend in the bottom right corner goes to exact semitones, or are you saying for a specific way to bend that to semitones linearly?
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Re: Serum Modulating Pitch Like Massive
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2016, 09:23:35 pm »
You can simply modulate the pitch by assigning an LFO to the "CRS" source and edit the length and or pattern there. 12 up mod would be equal to a octave upward and same applies downward.
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Re: Serum Modulating Pitch Like Massive
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2016, 01:17:02 am »
Phorella i'm not sure if modulating the "CRS" directly relates to semitones as you say. I have analyzed the tone with spectrum in ableton and it doesn't seem to be a one for one match. i.e. take a sin wave modulate CRS +12 with LFO1 using a square wave modulating every bar. if you play C4 for instance you won't get C5 as the note that plays on the peak of that modulation. instead you will get E5 which is 16 semitones not 12.
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Re: Serum Modulating Pitch Like Massive
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2016, 04:49:28 am »
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Re: Serum Modulating Pitch Like Massive
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2016, 06:31:08 am »
There really doesn't seem to be a simple way to do this. The closest I could get is by using a "Fixed" AUX source with the CRS pitch and setting its level to 78. That gets pretty close results (a couple of cents off, still green in a tuner plugin) when the jump is less than about two octaves. But you have to be careful when setting the value 78, because there seem to be values between the integers also :P

Maybe you could throw a feature request on the official forum?
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Re: Serum Modulating Pitch Like Massive
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2016, 05:29:45 pm »
Just saw this! Not sure what DAW you are using but I'm on Logic and can confirm that you can directly automate the semitones of an oscillator within Serum. The designated automation parameter for this is: "Serum: A Semi" (Assuming you're using Osc A). Also, it doesn't show up in percentages, but not sure if that is specific to Logic.

http://imgur.com/5Q1J6mX

If I misunderstood the question, let me know :D lol
Hope this helps
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Re: Serum Modulating Pitch Like Massive
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2016, 08:13:21 pm »
^ The way I understood the problem is that if you want to smoothly modulate the pitch by e.g. an octave, it's not that simple because you have to use the "coarse pitch" parameter. The problem is then that because the modulation amount is an integer, there's no setting that corresponds to exactly an octave. The "semi" parameter changes the pitch in jumps of semitones, so it doesn't work for this.
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Re: Serum Modulating Pitch Like Massive
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2016, 09:01:35 pm »
Quote from: Arktopolis on April 23, 2016, 08:13:21 pm
^ The way I understood the problem is that if you want to smoothly modulate the pitch by e.g. an octave, it's not that simple because you have to use the "coarse pitch" parameter. The problem is then that because the modulation amount is an integer, there's no setting that corresponds to exactly an octave. The "semi" parameter changes the pitch in jumps of semitones, so it doesn't work for this.

Ahh ok I see now. You're correct I had never actually tested the results.. it's not a smooth transition with Semi parameter. I just tried with coarse pitch as well and it seems the closest you can get to an octave is an integer of +9/+10 (in automation line), but it's still not completely in tune :/  I wonder if this is intentional by Xfer? I guess you could try bouncing to audio and using a third party pitch shifting plugin, but ofc won't be as flexible so not sure if you'll get desired result.

Thanks for clarifying, I'm a nub lol
Hopefully OP has figured something out by now
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