What is the best techniques for having the bass be your lead?
My problem is a lot of the time it feels too flat and not big/fat sounding.

Any suggestions?

I don't do them too often, but when I do, I like to do two "versions" of the bass. One filtered and quite low-passed for parts where other stuff is in. When the "drop" comes, I add another bass layer active in the lead-ish part of the spectrum. That creates the second, much bigger version of the bass line.

i wouldn't suggest you do any of these comments, because all you're doing is just splitting the signal and not actually addressing the stereo image of said sound.

I recommend using some busses, and multiple layers to create the total effect you want for the instance of the bass.

I know one thing to get a big sound and covers your entire ears, is to have very little going on as that particular sound is played.

I suggest you have a drum set and just mess with sub bass and the bass synth, until you get to the point of adding in more stuff.

typically if one thing is taking up the entire audio space, it's going to dominate. It's a characteristic i see in many of these producers who focus on the siqq wubs.

Quote from: FarleyCZ on February 08, 2016, 05:53:04 pm

Quote from: Marrow Machines on February 08, 2016, 05:07:48 pm

I recommend using some busses, and multiple layers to create the total effect you want for the instance of the bass.

...which is pretty much what I said in that comment you wouldn't suggest.

no, you suggested frequency splitting and duplicating one signal, not creating new layers.

unless you mean something different and it didn't come across that well.

But, the idea of what you said is correct, i just don't know if the implementation was correct, even though you may have the idea in your mind.

it's like having a sub bass layer, with a mid bass layer, and a high bass layer. Rather than having one bass layer that's split between the frequency that i've described (i've done it this way and it never got me any where close to what i wanted).

*edit* the only part that you did say that you add a layer is in the "lead spectrum", the rest i took it as "just duplicate what you already have and filter".
and to my experience, you can get a much cleaner sound by creating new layers and having them fit, than just duplicating and splitting frequencies.

the differences in tone and timbre is what comes across as having a big huge layer, with many things to listen to at once.

also it's good to have some automation when making your big bass business.

*DOUBLE EDIT* my initial post was rought with assumption and didn't penetrate the truth. These posts are good advice, but still doesn't address the stereo side of things. I think the break down was that, you might need to have a filtered sound in a specific range, that isn't apart of the original idea. Like my gripe with duplication, which may work but with variables added to where it's not a duplication, you'll need to make it different sounding and still have it fit with in the context you're looking for.

Quote from: FarleyCZ on February 08, 2016, 11:55:04 pm

You're right. I didn't explain what I ment properly. I'm sorry.

What I ment was another layer consisting of different sound active in part of the spectrum, where usually some kind of lead would be. It also helps to treat this layer almost like a lead. So reverb, delay, all the different effects you'd make your lead bigger by.

Big up, you made me think of my layers a little differently just now lol.

thank you.