I have a very excited coworker who just bought Ableton with Push (he still pronounces it AH-bleton), and today he talked my ear off about everything he expects to do with it.

Meanwhile, I have been steadily making music for 6 years, so I'm well aware of Ableton's capabilities. He has no idea I work on music though. I already know we have different tastes in music, so I'm not sure there is any point in sharing with someone I'm required to work with.

What would you do? Nod politely while he tells me about "splicing" (read: slicing, hah), or engage in conversation?

Yeah. I agree. If you like that guy, help him. If not, don't. Just don't troll him. That's not nice. You're in position it becomes a pretty entertaining option, but don't do it.

if you are both making electronic music, there is plenty you can share with him after 6 years of struggling.
it just comes down to how much you like him, i guess

Thanks guys. He can be an overbearing jerk at times, but he's still a good person with reasonable goals

Quote from: FarleyCZ on February 06, 2016, 06:25:57 am

Yeah. I agree. If you like that guy, help him. If not, don't. Just don't troll him. That's not nice. You're in position it becomes a pretty entertaining option, but don't do it.

Haha, can I still laugh to myself when he's "mastered" compression shortly after discovering it? (He likes to pretend he's an expert.)

if he's keen on banter, you can always throw a little towards his way and blow him out of the water. #assertdominance

I use Logic X but as far as transferring to Ableton I know what everything does do I know how to use it effectively? no I've only ever used it 10 times max tho, I don't know short cuts (hot keys) whatever you want to call them, anyways you can do many things with him

1.) Teach him & guide him

2.) Break the news to him that it's not so easy as it sounds to produce & that there are a lot more variables involved that just pressing record or putting midi info such as
Example: learning basic music theory understanding frequency in relation to notes key etc, (I'm still learning so I would say I have an idea) lol

3.) Let him teach himself, like many others such as myself and others. You'd probably be helping him, maybe, maybe not, because this will determine if he has the patience, the tenacity to go and do this, he would have to learn to enjoy the process if you let him fly solo & if he can't learn to enjoy the process & have fun with it well, let him figure out the rest

Just don't kill him, he has a dream I would assume like I & many others, if he's a douche let him learn if you want, if he's cool and walks up to you for advice or you approach him willingly, be sure to know you're in for future advice or you can redirect him here to avoid that anyways man, yeah the ball is in your court.

I have a very excited coworker who just bought Ableton with Push (he still pronounces it AH-bleton), and today he talked my ear off about everything he expects to do with it.

Meanwhile, I have been steadily making music for 6 years, so I'm well aware of Ableton's capabilities. He has no idea I work on music though. I already know we have different tastes in music, so I'm not sure there is any point in sharing with someone I'm required to work with.

What would you do? Nod politely while he tells me about "splicing" (read: slicing, hah), or engage in conversation?

There's a very easy solution, which could possibly benefit the both of you. Tell him that you know a thing or two about production as well, and that you would recommend using Reference tracks to improve. It will instantly help put things into perspective for him, because he will be able to instantly see what he needs to work on.. maybe he will quiet down a bit.