Author Topic: Should I get Monitors now or wait a little more? (Read 8357 times)

Zundara · « **on:** February 05, 2016, 10:11:47 pm »

So the my question is if I should buy some monitors to have a clearer definition of the music I'm composing/producing or wait a bit longer and work on my cheap 20 buck monitors for desktop which isn't good at all....I ask this because I feel like I need a better understanding of sound and how it work before I got out and spend said money on monitors or am I wrong? I have a sounder that I believe is 80w the sub on it is not bad the speaker it's self is good but I feel like I'd get a different animal with actual monitors. I'm not a beginner in music but neither am I an ammeter since I haven't made something I'm proud of yet I'd say I'm 2 steps above beginner and one below average, I guess I'm "below Average" still learning tho but any advice? If I should get monitors what kind should I get? I want the best bang for my buck I'd say the most I'd spend for one is like 160 so a total of $370 I don't want cheap monitors that don't provide the sound quality that I want, I'd rather spend an extra 70 bucks than spend $80 on cheap none reliable ones I mean if there good than, I'd consider them but yeah Do you think it will also step my game up as far as sound quality goes if I do get monitors as well?

Marrow Machines · « **Reply #1 on:** February 05, 2016, 10:58:11 pm »

Keep your old speakers. I still use my Logitec speakers that have a sub for consumer and casual use.

If you've spent some time with those speakers they can be a good reference point for that particular play back across consumer grade speakers.

You should upgrade your monitors if you're ready and you have the funds to do so.

You will also need to figure in cables, interface(if you do not have one), and stands. The stands aren't required, but boy are they HIGHLY recommended on my part.

Since this is your first upgrade, i suggest you buy in the 300-350$ range per speaker. I've tested some things that are below that range, and they just fall short of the quality you get.

I will, go out on a limb and suggest you look into 8inch speakers, because it gives you a range of frequencies that are easily accessible with out much need for an upgrade for a very long time. The only thing that i could suggest is a change of environment, and more expensive gear (1500$ per speaker range or w/e).

But that's end game.

Hope these suggestions help, it's also better to be patient and go looking for odd sales. I got my yamaha hs8's for the same price as KRK's, and the quality in that price range for the product i bought blows every thing out of the water, to me.

Gabe D · « **Reply #2 on:** February 05, 2016, 11:41:39 pm »

From my experience, which involved buying budget speakers only to replace them within that year, you will need better monitors.

I had some Alesis Elevate 5s cus they were cheap. Sounded great, or so I thought at the time. Since ive upgraded to JBL LSR305s, Im hearing things way better. The bass is way more accurate now. And I actually found my pair on Amazon for $200 new. That should fit into the budget you laid out.

Now depending on your setup and room, maybe the LSR308s are better since they would be 8" vs 5" woofer. I've also heard great things about yamaha. Never had them myself but lots of people love them.

Zundara · « **Reply #3 on:** February 06, 2016, 04:35:28 am »

Quote from: KAB on February 06, 2016, 04:35:28 am

From my experience, which involved buying budget speakers only to replace them within that year, you will need better monitors.

I had some Alesis Elevate 5s cus they were cheap. Sounded great, or so I thought at the time. Since ive upgraded to JBL LSR305s, Im hearing things way better. The bass is way more accurate now. And I actually found my pair on Amazon for $200 new. That should fit into the budget you laid out.

Now depending on your setup and room, maybe the LSR308s are better since they would be 8" vs 5" woofer. I've also heard great things about yamaha. Never had them myself but lots of people love them.

What about the Rokits KRK RP5G3 Rokit 5 Generation Monitor - Pair? Which is is better or is there another brand that would be good if not better?

Marrow Machines · « **Reply #4 on:** February 06, 2016, 05:43:52 am »

Quote from: KAB on February 06, 2016, 04:35:28 am

Quote from: KAB on February 06, 2016, 04:35:28 am
From my experience, which involved buying budget speakers only to replace them within that year, you will need better monitors.

I had some Alesis Elevate 5s cus they were cheap. Sounded great, or so I thought at the time. Since ive upgraded to JBL LSR305s, Im hearing things way better. The bass is way more accurate now. And I actually found my pair on Amazon for $200 new. That should fit into the budget you laid out.

Now depending on your setup and room, maybe the LSR308s are better since they would be 8" vs 5" woofer. I've also heard great things about yamaha. Never had them myself but lots of people love them.

What about the Rokits KRK RP5G3 Rokit 5 Generation Monitor - Pair? Which is is better or is there another brand that would be good if not better?

don't go cheap. krk's are glorified consumer speakers.

It is better than nothing, but once i've actually listened to them with learned ears, i quickly understood why my friend hates them with a passion.

I suggest you go listen at guitar center or where ever and any where that has these sort of products to get an idea of what tickles your ear.

Don't be afraid to save up for an extra couple months or so. This WILL be a big step in your career/hobby. don't try to cut corners with this purchase.

Zundara · « **Reply #5 on:** February 06, 2016, 09:42:26 pm »

Thanks for the advice, see I see people use KRK's a lot or some other monitors, I just don't know the logistics on monitors this is is really narrowing a lot of monitors down. anything i should listen to specifically when I buy monitors?

Marrow Machines · « **Reply #6 on:** February 07, 2016, 03:00:22 am »

Quote from: KAB on February 06, 2016, 09:42:26 pm

Thanks for the advice, see I see people use KRK's a lot or some other monitors, I just don't know the logistics on monitors this is is really narrowing a lot of monitors down. anything i should listen to specifically when I buy monitors?

listen to EVERY THING.

You may think those genelecs shouldn't be heard by your ears, but listen to them. get an understanding of what out of your price range, or in, sounds like.

You won't fully understand the monitors until you break them in, and put them to use. It's one of those things where you have to understand the tool and adjust to it, You don't make it adjust to you.

You can always go ask your people that work at those shops their opinion, or the general sound is of the monitors. Have them test it out for you. If you're serious about buying it, they'll obliged to help you make the best decision possible. That is if they are not lazy.

You gotta experience this in real life man, you're questions are starting to go beyond the scope of what the internet can provide.

I do suggest, do a massive amount of research and testing and be aware of deals.

If you want some brutally honest speakers that will last you a lifetime in conjunction with any upgrades that you might buy over your career, then the yamahas hs8's are a good bet and well worth the investment

Zundara · « **Reply #7 on:** February 07, 2016, 08:09:45 pm »

I went to Guitar Center & tried some out. While they're not 8's They're Yamahas HS7's & I thought they were amazing. Tbh I don't want to cut corners like you said, I'd rather pay good money than have pair that are of no use to me & be dissatisfied with them

Marrow Machines · « **Reply #8 on:** February 07, 2016, 08:59:06 pm »

Quote from: KAB on February 07, 2016, 08:09:45 pm

I went to Guitar Center & tried some out. While they're not 8's They're Yamahas HS7's & I thought they were amazing. Tbh I don't want to cut corners like you said, I'd rather pay good money than have pair that are of no use to me & be dissatisfied with them

Look at the tech specs

The main reason why i bought yamaha hs8's was because the bigger cone allows me to get to a lower bass frequency. This means that i wouldn't necessarily have to buy a sub bass, because it already projects those frequencies well enough. Plus i wouldn't have to deal with phasing and having a big ass thing under neath my desk.

If you clicked the link, the 7's only go to 43hz. Which is close to our threshold of hearing, but i'd much rather have it so that i can get a good replication at the lowest of the lows. Plus i love me some sub bass.

But the specs is what you should be looking for. with out going into details of what every thing means, just consider the frequency spectrum. You'd have to ask other people or do research about what the rest of the stuff is about, but that stuff does effect the sound.

EDIT: the 8 inch go to 38hz, so it's not much of a difference. but yea man, it's up to you and what your budget is.

Gabe D · « **Reply #9 on:** February 09, 2016, 05:25:21 pm »

Quote from: KAB on February 06, 2016, 04:35:28 am

Quote from: KAB on February 06, 2016, 04:35:28 am
From my experience, which involved buying budget speakers only to replace them within that year, you will need better monitors.

I had some Alesis Elevate 5s cus they were cheap. Sounded great, or so I thought at the time. Since ive upgraded to JBL LSR305s, Im hearing things way better. The bass is way more accurate now. And I actually found my pair on Amazon for $200 new. That should fit into the budget you laid out.

Now depending on your setup and room, maybe the LSR308s are better since they would be 8" vs 5" woofer. I've also heard great things about yamaha. Never had them myself but lots of people love them.

What about the Rokits KRK RP5G3 Rokit 5 Generation Monitor - Pair? Which is is better or is there another brand that would be good if not better?

Ive never had the Rokits so I cant really say. Some people think they are too bassy.

KickingPlastic · « **Reply #10 on:** February 12, 2016, 07:39:46 am »

Quote from: KAB on February 07, 2016, 08:09:45 pm

I went to Guitar Center & tried some out. While they're not 8's They're Yamahas HS7's & I thought they were amazing. Tbh I don't want to cut corners like you said, I'd rather pay good money than have pair that are of no use to me & be dissatisfied with them

I have HS7s, after having MAudio BX5s - big difference in my mixes, tighter and more balanced. Mine are close to my wall so the bass is cut on the speakers themselves and I still find I use headphones for microscopic checks but would heartily recommend the HS7s. Note I'm doing not only tech and such but also bass-heavy stuff like Jungle, U.K. Hardcore and Bassbeat (somewhere between bassline house and breakbeat).

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